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Old 07-26-06, 06:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How durable is aftermarket springs?

I noticed some of our members complaining about uneven height of the car when installed aftermarket springs.

And I also noticed (from other car) that after certain period, even aftermarket springs are sagging in one corner...became sagging a little faster than OEM springs...

How long will aftermarket springs for legend last?
I guess my question is which one is the most durable for our legend? H&R? Eibach, Koni Springs, Vogtland???

I am not asking for whatever performance matters of springs, I am asking which aftermarket springs will maintain its' original strength for longest time, maintaining the ground clearance for example...

Thank you for help in advance.
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Old 07-26-06, 06:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How durable is aftermarket springs?
why does this make me so mad?

just a tip when buying springs (or anything performance/aftermarket), look for brand name things. they have been around for a while for a reason. i have heard good things of both koni and eibach, and not too much sagging issues, but i have only seen them on lighter cars (ie focus, 1st gen legend, eclipse).
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I've had my set-up for almost 10 years and not one problem (160K miles).

Eibach Pro-Kit Springs and Koni Shocks, may- will cost you more up front but well worth it.

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I've had my set-up for almost 10 years and not one problem (160K miles).

Eibach Pro-Kit Springs and Koni Shocks, may- will cost you more up front but well worth it.

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But they r still cheaper than what u can buy at the dealership!

rite?
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Old 07-26-06, 06:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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But they r still cheaper than what u can buy at the dealership!

rite?
eh, dont know about that but after springs/shocks/labor your wallet should come out ahead.

secondly the car sits unevenly at stock. you just have to figure out the best settings that make it 'even'.
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IkeRay, why does this make you so mad?
I will look for name brand if I need to buy aftermarket springs definately. And I believe the name brand that I mentioned above all have been referred by many users etc.

One of the reason that I posted this questions is that, I currently have H&R on my G2 coupe, which I recently noticed a little bit of sagging in left front and also I noticed a little worn in right rear also.

I moved the perch to up (Koni shock) in my front left, so now it is alittle better but still a bit lower than right front.

All along I thought H&R is the best among koni, eibach, vogtland etc per many member's advice. Maybe, I need to go with eibach or koni?
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IkeRay, why does this make you so mad?
I will look for name brand if I need to buy aftermarket springs definately. And I believe the name brand that I mentioned above all have been referred by many users etc.

One of the reason that I posted this questions is that, I currently have H&R on my G2 coupe, which I recently noticed a little bit of sagging in left front and also I noticed a little worn in right rear also.
How long have you had the H&Rs, mileage-wise?
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IkeRay, why does this make you so mad?

the bad english grammer. im not picking on you at all, its america in general. people are becoming so lacks in their grammer that it really makes me mad. i know this is online/general discussion and not some formal business meeting, but i think that one should practice good grammer at all times. im one to talk with the none capitalizing of words, but that is only because i am too lazy when typing online, i do most of the posting at night and am too tired to hit the shift key.

as far as the unevenness of the car, i cant seem to find the thread, but someone was talking about how the legend seemed to be built to be uneven so that the driver side was a touch higher than the passenger side. the reason was so that when the driver got in the car, the car would ride level. so stock is uneven anyways, so aftermarkets SHOULD also be uneven for this reason.
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the bad english grammer. im not picking on you at all, its america in general.
How amusing. I clicked on this thread very tempted to write "How durable ARE aftermarket springs" and elicit a response along the lines of "this is the internet, not school," but I see I have been beaten to the punch. Aggravates me also. I can understand that some may choose to write poorly on the internet for whatever reason. However, a four year old child is able to differentiate properly between 'is' and 'are' in everyday speech. It is very noticeable and impedes effective communication when such egregious errors are made.

Notice the difference such a basic error makes:

Excuse me, is this a good time?

Excuse me, are this a good time? (sounds like it should be accompanied by uncontrolled drooling)


On topic, a quality set of OEM springs (Eibachs, H&Rs, etc.) should last as long as OEM springs. The shocks and other suspension components will probably wear faster due to the additional stress occured from lowering the car.
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H&R springs are known to sag over time. It seems to happen with a variety of cars, so its not just isolated to Legends.
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Old 07-28-06, 02:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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How amusing. I clicked on this thread very tempted to write "How durable ARE aftermarket springs" and elicit a response along the lines of "this is the internet, not school," but I see I have been beaten to the punch. Aggravates me also. I can understand that some may choose to write poorly on the internet for whatever reason. However, a four year old child is able to differentiate properly between 'is' and 'are' in everyday speech. It is very noticeable and impedes effective communication when such egregious errors are made.

Notice the difference such a basic error makes:

Excuse me, is this a good time?

Excuse me, are this a good time? (sounds like it should be accompanied by uncontrolled drooling)


On topic, a quality set of OEM springs (Eibachs, H&Rs, etc.) should last as long as OEM springs. The shocks and other suspension components will probably wear faster due to the additional stress occured from lowering the car.

Good thang u gys waist mour times critizizing on sumthin so small and ignorable than on the point of the thread... Dont get me rong im not trying to start a fight here but i mean com'on guys that is so small and you knew what he ment. Im sure u guys make mistakes too. im sure u wouldnt want someone to flame you for something so small.

But i also sometimes notice(my stock springs)the car looks like it is leaning to the right , or the driver side is a tad higher. after it bothers me for about 15 min. i have to tell my self im just seeing it to get it off my mind, but i guess it is.. oh well the ride quality is good, and that guy just mentioned that it might sapose to be
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Good thang u gys waist mour times critizizing on sumthin so small and ignorable than on the point of the thread... Dont get me rong im not trying to start a fight here but i mean com'on guys that is so small and you knew what he ment. Im sure u guys make mistakes too. im sure u wouldnt want someone to flame you for something so small.

But i also sometimes notice(my stock springs)the car looks like it is leaning to the right , or the driver side is a tad higher. after it bothers me for about 15 min. i have to tell my self im just seeing it to get it off my mind, but i guess it is.. oh well the ride quality is good, and that guy just mentioned that it might sapose to be
None of the comments regarding grammar can be considered flaming in this thread. It is simply a very noticeable grammatical mistake. It's a basic part of the English language and sentence structure. It is not something someone should get wrong. Take a look at my examples, you can see what a difference it makes. It is *not* a small mistake. It reflects a profound lack of proficiency with the language.

The Legend in stock configuration is slightly uneven as you noticed. Although depending on how much it is leaning you may have sagging springs on one side. I notice the same thing with mine, but it usually small enough that I second guess myself. If I was more obsessive about such things, I would carry a level and see if the ground was making my car lean.
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None of the comments regarding grammar can be considered flaming in this thread. It is simply a very noticeable grammatical mistake. It's a basic part of the English language and sentence structure. It is not something someone should get wrong. Take a look at my examples, you can see what a difference it makes. It is *not* a small mistake. It reflects a profound lack of proficiency with the language.
I have to say, I laughed to myself when I saw it too; I thought in my head "where is aftermarket springs?" "sounds like a resort town," and "why would a town need to be durable?" I know... stupid, but changing "are" to "is" does change the meaning of the OP's question... and these changes do impede communication.
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Wow! I think I made some of you feel a little uncomfortable...

I haven't been able to follow this thread to the end at the time. I just recently happened to come across with this thread (which I have opened up) again while looking for some other info...

Well, I must confess that I am not a native speaker of English. Obviously, often (rather frequently) I make such simple mistakes. Excuse is that I am from other part of earth, the native language of which has no differentiation of verb forms between singular and plural. So basically, I am lack of such natural "capability" of "sensing" such different feel, which makes me difficult to keep track of my own such misuse of verb forms (or as "arnach" or "IkeRay" said, I am fundamentally lack of English proficiency). I need to be more careful writing things on this forum from now on, Or rather keep just quiet and just read posts only...

And also, I fully agree and appreciate with "arnach" and "IkeRay"'s comments such that, we should be as equally careful in writing things in internet as we are communicating in "real" life.

Anyway, I appologize if the title of this post made some of members feel uncomfortable. I wish I can change the title (from "IS" to "ARE") even now. Or hopefully moderator can delete this entire post if acceptable.

Oh! by the way, thank you "nosajc" for your "supportive(?)" comments.

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Wow! I think I made some of you feel a little uncomfortable...

I haven't been able to follow this thread to the end at the time. I just recently happened to come across with this thread (which I have opened up) again while looking for some other info...

Well, I must confess that I am not a native speaker of English. Obviously, often (rather frequently) I make such simple mistakes. Excuse is that I am from other part of earth, the native language of which has no differentiation of verb forms between singular and plural. So basically, I am lack of such natural "capability" of "sensing" such different feel, which makes me difficult to keep track of my own such misuse of verb forms (or as "arnach" or "IkeRay" said, I am fundamentally lack of English proficiency). I need to be more careful writing things on this forum from now on, Or rather keep just quiet and just read posts only...

And also, I fully agree and appreciate with "arnach" and "IkeRay"'s comments such that, we should be as equally careful in writing things in internet as we are communicating in "real" life.

Anyway, I appologize if the title of this post made some of members feel uncomfortable. I wish I can change the title (from "IS" to "ARE") even now. Or hopefully moderator can delete this entire post if acceptable.

Oh! by the way, thank you "nosajc" for your "supportive(?)" comments.

Happy New Year to all!

my comment was never meant to flame, and seeing as English is a secondary language to you, it is a common mistake of beginners, but people who grew up with the language learned this early in their development so it shouldn't be such a slip up. you said it best that we should just as careful typing online as we are when we talk in person.

i don't think the thread should necessarily be deleted as it still stays on topic. did you ever get aftermarket springs put on? if so, how are they holding up. and by durable, i never realized that you meant compared to OEM, but as was stated they should last just as long, maybe longer.
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