RSR springs vs H&R springs vs eibach springs

bigant812 · 04-11-06, 01:41 AM

i jus wanted some idea on these springs. i need all the info on these springs. what are go for the smooth ride but have the racing edges. so please help me. thank.

92drls · 04-11-06, 05:06 AM

I personally would go coilovers but everyone wants a different feel and height so if your going with springs I've heard great results about H&R.... "To each his own"

amplified · 04-11-06, 07:16 AM

JIC's cost an arm and a leg. Not everyone can afford them.

As for RSR's not very many people have them for the Legend. But based on other cars there seems to be mixed reviews. A lot of the complaints i've seen are they drop cars more than advertised or they're too stiff.

Eibach's give a suttle drop where as H&R's give a bit more aggressive drop. Seems like H&R would suit you better based on your description of what you're looking for.

Fran · 04-12-06, 12:57 AM

I have H&R's with koni's.. Its a great settup, very stiff and tight with the MLS copy bar. I always loved H&R! Have a set on my accord and just got this set put on the legend today. Will take a pic for you tomorrow if you'd like.

Elver · 06-08-06, 08:32 PM

So which of the three offer the best ride quality? Im not really a street racer I just whant the soft ride of the legend with a more aggressive look. Anyone looking for the same?

91LSMAN · 06-08-06, 10:03 PM

I have Koni shocks with Eibach springs. It's a subtle drop and it feels just fine. Pretty close to OEM.

ivanj · 06-09-06, 12:27 AM

Get a KONI Sport Kit and leave the shocks on the out of the box setting.

mattslegend1 · 06-09-06, 02:16 PM

I love my H&Rs.had them on since 2000 and still ride good.

GSteg · 06-09-06, 04:20 PM

Out of all those, I'd go for the H&R if you can't afford coilovers.

H&R has a reputation of being high quality, mixed with excellent performance.

trippleblackac · 06-09-06, 05:49 PM

I've got Konis and H&Rs and while i like the level of drop (lookwise), the frontend rides really hard. Every decent bump shakes the car and jars the dash. It is as if I really have no front suspension at all. I'm running an Ingalls camber kit and have and have "shaved" the upper control arm ends down a little but have only been able to solve the issue of the arms rattling against my inner fenders for a limited time. People question whether it is safe to ride in my car because it sounds like the front suspension is going to fall out.
Anyone else have this issue? I'm really sick of the banging around and crappy shock absoption up front but I hate how high stock Legends ride. I'm seriously thinking of swapping out for Eibachs, they just aren't a very aggressive drop though.
Anyone else with this setup been battling this issue? I welcome your comments and suggestions.
Thanks

trippleblackac · 06-09-06, 06:00 PM

BTW - springs are on top perch (f) and middle perch (r). Yes I always check and have had my mechanic check upper/lower ball joint, tie rods, etc. when its on a lift and all is fine. I dod that my bumpstops have disintegrated but that should only have an effect on preventing bottoming out.
When I stomp on it on the highway I seem to feel the front slightly raise up (suspensiowise) which I seem to remember it use to be alot more stiff when I first put the suspension on a couple years ago. I originally had the shocks on full soft but adjusted them up about 1/4 turn about 6 months ago. It was a little more responsive and slightly bouncy or quick to recover (rebound) at first but now I swear they feel more soft again. Koni is telling me thats normal. I just want to fix this -- im sick of a crappy, rattling ride.
Thanks.

mattslegend1 · 06-09-06, 07:07 PM

Why do you need the camber kit?I have mine aligned every 6 months when shes running properly and use h&r springs w/oem shocks,if your konis are on the top perch and the arms are all straight you should not need the camber kit.At the shop we had to use an ingalls kit on one with konis and eibach on the lowest perch but the car had hit a curb,still no shaving of anything or rattling.I don't think your problem is the springs.Did you cut the bumpstops in half?Check to make sure everything is tight and all the bushings are in place andnot worn out.

trippleblackac · 06-09-06, 07:17 PM

I've never heard of anyone not using a kit with H&Rs and not experiencing some uneven wear-- Ive heard you don't need one with Eibachs. I rode without a camber kit for a few -- 6 months and it started wearing my inner treadblocks. I dislike the Ingalls kit - always got to regrease it because it squeaks and my car sounds like a carriage.
As far I know and anyone can tell me, nothing is obviously worn on my car -bushing wise. As mentioned before, my bumpstops are non existent - they disintegrated.
Also, when I back up out of a parking spot and turn the wheel, a loud pop will come from the front like the arms are rubbing and popping off the inner fenders. Are you telling me that your car rides good with H&Rs and stock shocks? And you have no rattling issues. Does your car take bumps (potholes, changes in elevation of concrete slabs greater than 3/4 inch) smoothly? If so, WTF is wrong with my car. It is seriously driving me insane.
Thanks.

mattslegend1 · 06-09-06, 07:23 PM

Yes it rides good-no rattling issues at all.As for smooth I gave that up with 215/35/19 tires,also I have removed the inner fender wells[plastic parts].

LegendLuck3 · 06-10-06, 12:37 PM

I have Eibachs and Koni reds with 215/35/19s on my coupe. I can't complain about the feel b/c of the tires, but the suspension setup is great. I have no idea if they are on soft or hardest setting (I have nothing to compare it to as the shop put them on and I drove away- thats it).

I can say that it is barely noticeable of a drop. These 19s raised the car a tiny bit and now I can pull forward into parking spaces pretty much all the way until it hits my tires, no rubbing unless its a huge block. But with that drop and stock tires, I would barely scrape the block everytime.

Wish I had gone with H&Rs. If anyone with H&Rs would rather have Eibachs, email me and we'll switch. magicdragon3@hotmail.com

Kevin

04-11-06, 01:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
bigant812 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: san francisco Posts: 31 Car 1: 1992 legend ls coupe & 91 legend l sedan iTrader: (0)	RSR springs vs H&R springs vs eibach springs i jus wanted some idea on these springs. i need all the info on these springs. what are go for the smooth ride but have the racing edges. so please help me. thank.

04-11-06, 05:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
92drls Factory Freak! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 1,317 Car 1: JDM KA8 5sp Car 2: Lincoln LS8 RIP iTrader: (0)	I personally would go coilovers but everyone wants a different feel and height so if your going with springs I've heard great results about H&R.... "To each his own" __________________

04-11-06, 07:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
amplified Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coquitlam, BC Posts: 826 Car 1: '91 L Sedan iTrader: (2)	JIC's cost an arm and a leg. Not everyone can afford them. As for RSR's not very many people have them for the Legend. But based on other cars there seems to be mixed reviews. A lot of the complaints i've seen are they drop cars more than advertised or they're too stiff. Eibach's give a suttle drop where as H&R's give a bit more aggressive drop. Seems like H&R would suit you better based on your description of what you're looking for. __________________

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91LSMAN I like shiny Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 14,892 Car 1: 91 LS Coupe (GONE) Car 2: Current-02 Corvette Car 3: 94 LS Coupe (Bro's) iTrader: (4)	I have Koni shocks with Eibach springs. It's a subtle drop and it feels just fine. Pretty close to OEM. __________________

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mattslegend1 doin it since 99 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: OKC Posts: 113 Car 1: 92-ka7-6spd-75shot Car 2: 89 crx si-ls-50 shot Car 3: 87 supra turbo iTrader: (0)	I love my H&Rs.had them on since 2000 and still ride good. __________________ Matt Garvey http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg http://www.alternativemotorsports.com

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04-12-06, 12:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fran Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MA Posts: 346 Car 1: 95 Legend GS Blk/Type F iTrader: (0)	I have H&R's with koni's.. Its a great settup, very stiff and tight with the MLS copy bar. I always loved H&R! Have a set on my accord and just got this set put on the legend today. Will take a pic for you tomorrow if you'd like.

06-08-06, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Elver Hunter! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 222 Car 1: 91 Legend LS Coupe Car 2: 99 S10 V6 "Xtreme" Car 3: 92 Econoline Tiara iTrader: (0)	So which of the three offer the best ride quality? Im not really a street racer I just whant the soft ride of the legend with a more aggressive look. Anyone looking for the same?

06-09-06, 12:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
ivanj From Alphaville, not Mars Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 315 Car 1: 2005 AMG CL55 Car 2: 2003 NSX-T 6 speed Car 3: 99 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 iTrader: (0)	Get a KONI Sport Kit and leave the shocks on the out of the box setting.

06-09-06, 04:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
GSteg Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,519 Car 1: 1992 iTrader: (0)	Out of all those, I'd go for the H&R if you can't afford coilovers. H&R has a reputation of being high quality, mixed with excellent performance. __________________ 1992 Acura Legend LS sedan

06-09-06, 05:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
trippleblackac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 121 Car 1: 94 Black/Black LS Coupe iTrader: (0)	I've got Konis and H&Rs and while i like the level of drop (lookwise), the frontend rides really hard. Every decent bump shakes the car and jars the dash. It is as if I really have no front suspension at all. I'm running an Ingalls camber kit and have and have "shaved" the upper control arm ends down a little but have only been able to solve the issue of the arms rattling against my inner fenders for a limited time. People question whether it is safe to ride in my car because it sounds like the front suspension is going to fall out. Anyone else have this issue? I'm really sick of the banging around and crappy shock absoption up front but I hate how high stock Legends ride. I'm seriously thinking of swapping out for Eibachs, they just aren't a very aggressive drop though. Anyone else with this setup been battling this issue? I welcome your comments and suggestions. Thanks

06-09-06, 06:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
trippleblackac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 121 Car 1: 94 Black/Black LS Coupe iTrader: (0)	BTW - springs are on top perch (f) and middle perch (r). Yes I always check and have had my mechanic check upper/lower ball joint, tie rods, etc. when its on a lift and all is fine. I dod that my bumpstops have disintegrated but that should only have an effect on preventing bottoming out. When I stomp on it on the highway I seem to feel the front slightly raise up (suspensiowise) which I seem to remember it use to be alot more stiff when I first put the suspension on a couple years ago. I originally had the shocks on full soft but adjusted them up about 1/4 turn about 6 months ago. It was a little more responsive and slightly bouncy or quick to recover (rebound) at first but now I swear they feel more soft again. Koni is telling me thats normal. I just want to fix this -- im sick of a crappy, rattling ride. Thanks.

06-09-06, 07:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
mattslegend1 doin it since 99 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: OKC Posts: 113 Car 1: 92-ka7-6spd-75shot Car 2: 89 crx si-ls-50 shot Car 3: 87 supra turbo iTrader: (0)	Why do you need the camber kit?I have mine aligned every 6 months when shes running properly and use h&r springs w/oem shocks,if your konis are on the top perch and the arms are all straight you should not need the camber kit.At the shop we had to use an ingalls kit on one with konis and eibach on the lowest perch but the car had hit a curb,still no shaving of anything or rattling.I don't think your problem is the springs.Did you cut the bumpstops in half?Check to make sure everything is tight and all the bushings are in place andnot worn out. __________________ Matt Garvey http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg http://www.alternativemotorsports.com

06-09-06, 07:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
trippleblackac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 121 Car 1: 94 Black/Black LS Coupe iTrader: (0)	I've never heard of anyone not using a kit with H&Rs and not experiencing some uneven wear-- Ive heard you don't need one with Eibachs. I rode without a camber kit for a few -- 6 months and it started wearing my inner treadblocks. I dislike the Ingalls kit - always got to regrease it because it squeaks and my car sounds like a carriage. As far I know and anyone can tell me, nothing is obviously worn on my car -bushing wise. As mentioned before, my bumpstops are non existent - they disintegrated. Also, when I back up out of a parking spot and turn the wheel, a loud pop will come from the front like the arms are rubbing and popping off the inner fenders. Are you telling me that your car rides good with H&Rs and stock shocks? And you have no rattling issues. Does your car take bumps (potholes, changes in elevation of concrete slabs greater than 3/4 inch) smoothly? If so, WTF is wrong with my car. It is seriously driving me insane. Thanks.

06-09-06, 07:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
mattslegend1 doin it since 99 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: OKC Posts: 113 Car 1: 92-ka7-6spd-75shot Car 2: 89 crx si-ls-50 shot Car 3: 87 supra turbo iTrader: (0)	Yes it rides good-no rattling issues at all.As for smooth I gave that up with 215/35/19 tires,also I have removed the inner fender wells[plastic parts]. __________________ Matt Garvey http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg http://www.alternativemotorsports.com

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LegendLuck3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 48 Car 1: 93 LS Coupe 122k miles iTrader: (0)	I have Eibachs and Koni reds with 215/35/19s on my coupe. I can't complain about the feel b/c of the tires, but the suspension setup is great. I have no idea if they are on soft or hardest setting (I have nothing to compare it to as the shop put them on and I drove away- thats it). I can say that it is barely noticeable of a drop. These 19s raised the car a tiny bit and now I can pull forward into parking spaces pretty much all the way until it hits my tires, no rubbing unless its a huge block. But with that drop and stock tires, I would barely scrape the block everytime. Wish I had gone with H&Rs. If anyone with H&Rs would rather have Eibachs, email me and we'll switch. magicdragon3@hotmail.com Kevin