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Total stuff needed:
(1) Bottle of smart blend ( Black Bottle)
(I used Lube Guard from NAPA for $11.00)

(4) quarts of "F" type Trans fluid
(7) quarts of Dextron fluid
(4) quarts of Genuine Honda fluid

Time to play with your car.......

1. Drain the fluid and add 3.5 quarts of "F" type fluid. F-fluid (ATF) is what is used in Ford transmissions. It has a very high detergent base to it that is designed to clean the internal parts and to break down varnish build up.

2. Drive the car around for several miles and then drain it again . I do not recommend that you leave the F-type fluid in the car for an
extended time.

3. Now having drained the fluid refill the unit with 3.5 qt's of
Dextron II or III and again drive the car around for a few miles
working the Dextron in. While you are doing this what you are
actually doing is diluting the F-type fluid and flushing the dirty fluid
out of the converter at the same time.

4. Return to the driveway and dump the fluid again and

5. repeat the process again. (Steps 3-4)

6. Now , having returned once again , you have drained one last
time. At this point what little F-type fluid that was left has been
drastically diluted and the majority of what you have left is Dextron.

7. Now fill the tranny up with Genuine Honda ATF . Honda fluid has
a high silicone base to it and that is what will keep your tranny
shifting smooth. You now have 3.5 quarts of Honda fluid mixed in
with about 5qts of Dextron mixed with .5 qts of F type fluid (Mix) .
Not enough to hurt a thing. Now to even things out and bring us all
back to Basic Honda fluid , get a bottle of a product called "Smart
Blend" It's made by a company called "Life Products" Be sure to
get the Black bottle as it is specially designed to convert Dextron
over to Honda fluid, this is a product that we endorse, and use it in
all our transmissions through out the building process. If you can't
find it then try Lube Guard , and again use the Black bottle. Both
products have red bottles and I thin also a Blue one too?

8. Pour one full bottle of Smart Blend into the tranny and you're set. Smart blend reduces operating temps as well as is a friction modifier that will reduce clutch pack chatter as well as help with converter lock up. Now the reason you start with the F type fluid is to clean . Then you use Dextron to dilute the F-type (Ford) and besides to dump that much Honda fluid just to flush would be a
sin, not to mention costly as all get up.
 

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How much?

How much did all that fluid cost you? And about how long did it take??
 

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Re: thanks

Leon Millette said:
good to have this in plain view...now we don't have to hunt it down :)
(1) Lube Guard from NAPA @ ~$12.00 ea. = $12.00
(4) quarts of "F" type Trans fluid @ ~$1.90 ea. = $7.60
(7) quarts of Dextron fluid @ ~$1.90ea. = $13.30
(4) quarts of Genuine Honda fluid @ ~ $5.00 ea. (depends on dealer, buy at honda not acura for lowest price) = $20.00

About $53 as listed, this originally was written by Gil a member that owns a transmission shop and is very knowledgeable about Legends.

This is a good alternative because some members have had tranny problems after power flushes, supposedly there is a TSB telling all dealers not to power flush our trannys.

-Ben
 

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couple questions

where can I get the F type fluid and dextron fluid?

Also do Honda only has one kind of ATF? So I can just go into a Honda dealership and ask for 4 quarts of Honda ATF, wouldn't they ask what kind of car I have?

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WhiteLegend said:
couple questions

where can I get the F type fluid and dextron fluid?
Any car parst store, or even Wal-Mart.

Also do Honda only has one kind of ATF? So I can just go into a Honda dealership and ask for 4 quarts of Honda ATF, wouldn't they ask what kind of car I have?
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Only one type of ATF it's called Honda ATF Z1

-Ben
 

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Is it a bad idea just drain the tranny fluid. Then add the honda fluid after that pour the bottle of smart blend. Can i just do that?
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ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid


And I believe there is only 1 kind of honda ATF at the dealer. I was able to get it for $3 and change for each quart. What im thinking is that instead of doing that flush, why not just drain and refill with honda atf in a short period and then add the smart blend. Thats what I did with 2 atf changes within a week or two.
 

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When exactly did Gills tranny fluid drain and refill become a 4X deal?

As far as I remember (I could be wrong though) he had always said 3X. IF I'm not mistaken, somehow someone added an extra drain and fill into his coined method of tranny fluid replacement. Am I wrong?
 

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Here is the info I used to complie the tranny flush.

Here is the info I used to complie the tranny flush. I just re formated it for easier reading.

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Roger,
You can get the Lube Guard ( as Ben stated ) at NAPA autoparts, it's the same thing as Smart Blend but costs more. Be sure to use the "Black" bottle after your flush to "upgrade" any Dextron you might have left in the tranny to Honda ATF standards. For future ATF changes w/o the flush, you can add a bottle of Lube Guard OR Smart Blend "Red" bottle which is designed to further reduce cluth chatter and heat.
 

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Just to add that if you can't find smart blend at your local shops, you can call the manufacturer to ask for your local distributors or simply order it from their web site.

http://www.lifeautomotive.com

cheapest that I can find online is

http://www.bulkpart.com
 

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clueless when it comes to Transmission

ok...thanks for the instructions on changing the Trans Fluid.
now my q is....anybody have pics on this how to??

1. where and which nut do i take off to drain under the Transmission??
2. Is there any filter i need to change??
3. I take it i need to lift the car off the ground enough for me to go under the car to access the Tranmission?? correct?
4. Is there pictorial on this how to??

anyone that responed.....thanks

my car : '94 white Legend coupe ..AUTO
 

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I thought to drain the transmission fluid you took off one of the lines going to the radiator and turned on the car and let it pump it out then drained the fluid from the pan. thats how i have done it in the past?
 

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OK i under stand everything here except one part, when u say put the F-type fluid in then drive it for a couple miles, do u mean like put the f-type fluid in and drive it arround the block for 20 mins then come back drain it, put the dexron in drive it arround for another 20 mins and do that over 3 or 4 times?
 

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I couldn't find that F type fluid so I put dishwashing detergent into my transmission and it cleaned all the parts very well and broke down all varnish build up. get one with lemon scent - works best. .;)

there is simple trans. fluid change (3.5qts) and there is complete flush (10-12 qts) using specialized equipment. ANYTHING ELSE IS BS.
 
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