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MY FIRST POST USING PICS, SORRY FOR THE SIZE.

I was checking this Legend out a few weeks back via Autotrader. I scoped it out while he was at work so I could see it while it was still daylight. The interior doesn't look the best, but it has a very clean exterior, with just a couple of very minor blemishes. The only other thing is that it has Kelly Charger tires in the front, which of course don't match the GoodYear's in the back. But I didn't really want to spend the $7,100 he was asking(even though in my area, it's nearly impossible to get a clean, unmolested Honda/Acura for private book). It has since showed up in the local newspaper classifieds at $6,495 obo. I called, and he said he would take $6,250. It has 82,000 miles, he's the third owner, been garaged most of it's life. 75,000 mile service has been done, but not the T-belt/water pump, etc. Was that due at 60k or is it due at 90k? Can someone tell me the cost of that at Dealer and at a Import/Honda/Acura shop off the top of their head? He said he was selling it to raise some money for his musclecars, which I did see at parked at his house.

Here is some pics of the car he sent me:






Here is a pic I snapped at his house (wet morning):


What should I look out for when I drive it later today? What would totally turn you away from purchasing a Legend? What are common problems or repairs that turn out costing much more than other cars?

Any info/advice is much appreciated.
 

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light shuddering while idle, high idle, temp gauge going up/down, electical lights turning on/off, leaks in the trunk, brakes, smoothness of shifts into 2nd
what does it mean if there isn't a perfectly smooth shift from 1st to 2nd if you have the tpe 2 engine?

i just thought is was supposed to be a sporty feel for the type 2 engine
 

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The car looks pretty clean...inside and outside. But considering it's a 12-year old car, expect some problems to surface later on. Search the forum about common problems; you'll find plenty of threads that talk about this. The timing belt should've been changed to substantiate the seller's $7100 or $6250. Edmunds said a clean '93 Legend L with 82K runs about $6332 Retail and $4647 Private Party! Considering these values, I would try to negotiate to a lower price...perhaps $5000! And be sure to say that you'll be changing the timing belt soon so that'll cost an extra $500-900 out of your pocket! Best of luck in your purchase! :)
 

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That would be nice if people around NW Oregon/SW Washington used Edmonds instead of KBB, but hey...what can you do? Seriously man, I'm laughing at those Edmonds prices they're so low. But I notice on autotrader.com if I do a nation wide search prices are usually a little closer to edmunds than KBB.

I looked for a car for my sis for a good month, budget of around $8k. I probably test drove 30 cars (Max's, Acuras, Hondas, Toys). Toasted trannies, strange smells from the engine bay, bad titles, on and on. The best car I found was a mint 2nd owner 97 Lexus ES300 w/107k. And I was lucky to get it for $8,700 (KBB $9500 I think at the time for Private Party). A lot anywhere around my area would have had the car at $11-12K.

Just go to autotrader.com, my zip is 97303. The stipulations are 4dr AT. $5,000-6,500. The car is for my mother.

So anyway, IF the car runs good, I need to get him to drop the price another $500 minimum to take care of the T-belt/water pump/etc.

And with everyone in my area going by KBB, this car books at $7,050. He'll probably say he's already letting it go low enough for the buyer to replace the T-belt/etc.

[email protected] DAMN I hate my local market. After I sold my Eclipse GSX last May, I was thinking about going for a 94+ 1.8L Miata and turbo it. KBB's ridiculous book was around $3-3500. I couldn't find a clean one for less than $5k! For a car that when new, was what...$15K.

Thanks for the input.

BTW, was the Tbelt due at 60K or 90K?
 

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wp/tb cost around $1200 and everthing on the legends cost quite a bit more than you are prolly used to paying.i love them and have owned many for more than 15 years but they are high maintaince cars.
that tb/wp price is if you go to places where labor is $80+/hr......i'm getting mine done (w/genuine Honda tb/wp) with parts/labor/tax for $585...just don't go to goodyear, gas stations, or the stealership.......now about the high maint. part, I can't agree more
 

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I called a well known/respected Honda/Acura shop and they quoted me $550.

Okay, lets see. The interior and exterior of this car were literally perfect. That is all I can say. I had a friend of mine come along who has been selling cars for three years and he completly agreed.

It idles perfect, has plenty of power, it doesn't look like it's 12 years old.

But (always a but), the transmission felt a little rough going from 1st to 2nd while cornering. Like making a turn from a stop. It downshifted and upshifted quickly and efficiently. Just felt a hiccup when starting and turning.

Any simple solution?

Does anyone have a CarFax and wouldn't mind running it?
 

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I called a well known/respected Honda/Acura shop and they quoted me $550.

Okay, lets see. The interior and exterior of this car were literally perfect. That is all I can say. I had a friend of mine come along who has been selling cars for three years and he completly agreed.

It idles perfect, has plenty of power, it doesn't look like it's 12 years old.

But (always a but), the transmission felt a little rough going from 1st to 2nd while cornering. Like making a turn from a stop. It downshifted and upshifted quickly and efficiently. Just felt a hiccup when starting and turning.

Any simple solution?

Does anyone have a CarFax and wouldn't mind running it?
bingo, I would get the tb/wp asap AS WELL AS (depending on need)
1) valve seals
2) piston rings
3) head gaskets
all this in an effort to avoid the smoke that all G2 billow after traffic light idles once they've gone more than 150-160k miles....
when you tell them you want them to do tb/wp job they'll know that you're paying serious bucks so they will listen to you about your concerns about the three items
 

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Chimuyo1, your not serious are you? Piston rings? Your talk about stripping the block! thousands of dollars for those repairs or as you say preventative maintenance.

These cars seem as troublesome as DSMs and I don't want to join, or should I say...have my mother join a camp like that as that is who this car would be for.
 

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My 92 L had 265,000 miles on it and did not smoke. The lower end of these engines are extremely durable. If it's lessthan 100K miles it's not even broke in.
 

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Chimuyo1, your not serious are you? Piston rings? Your talk about stripping the block! thousands of dollars for those repairs or as you say preventative maintenance.

These cars seem as troublesome as DSMs and I don't want to join, or should I say...have my mother join a camp like that as that is who this car would be for.
Legends are one of the most reliably "sport" performance sedan (whatever you wanna call it) cars out there especially given the time period. These cars simply don't break. Yeah, there is alot of complaining on these forums, but the reliability of this car is much better than any other luxury car from the time.

My car has 160k on the clock and absolutely no major problems. No "billowing" smoke after stoplights. Dealer maintained from new till 150k. BHG replaced by the dealer for free at 70k. In the last 50,000 miles I've had to do (besides scheduled maintence).. let's see.. a new radiator, and new brake pads. Whoop-te-doo.
 
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