[token7888]

hi john

Hey john,
Yeah, you would think that they would have just replaced something, but the bending is what he recommended. BTW, two separate shops recommended this guy specifically (Aligning frames, suspension, etc is all they do) because they said he could do a better job than they could.
Can't complain, car tracks and turns great. And no I have never bottomed the suspension or anything like that to damage it.
If I were Honda, I wouldn't write to bend anything either. Just asking for trouble IMO. And yes, I did look at my factory manuals, no Haynes crap here.
J

 

[john bigonion]

thats good that it worked, but by bending a piece of cast iron like the knuckle, it actually weakens the metal. If you ever install factory springs, chances are it will be off and have to be bent back, further weakening the knucle. One thing I have noticed about all honda's, the are one of the best built cars on earth, but the are also one of the most sensitive also. If you don't use a good quality replacement parts or do crappy work to them, you will notice it in there performance.

 

[token7888]

agreed

John,
I agree with what you are saying. And I am not trying to argue with you. All I am saying is that after 211,000 miles, the knuckles on my car were no longer factory spec. The tech just decided to heat and bend them back into factory spec instead of replacing them. My car has a factory suspension/wheel set up (except for Moog lower ball joints) so there should be no problem if I need new springs.
If they didn't have the expertise, I wouldn't have agreed to it. That said, heating and bending the knuckle will never be as good as a brand new part.
J

 

[john bigonion]

You didn't say he heated the knuckle, that does help the metal retain is strength. A cold bend is the worst thing you can do to cast iron, a hot bend is not bad at all.

 

[johnny3]

They're forged steel, you can heat & bend it. Do your 10 Honda service manuals support cutting Honda suspension parts in half & welding them back together? Sometimes you do what you gotta do.

 

[john bigonion]

When you first posted about the knuckle bend you didn't mention that the shop heated it to bend it. It doesn't matter if it's forged or cast, a cold bend does weaken metal alot more than a hot bend. Has for cutting the upper control arm, I didn't bend and it doesn't have the stresses a front knuckle has. It's your car.

 

[Fut]

Ok Mr John Bigonion, enough talk, where's the pics? Some of us here would like to try this mod if it's really all you say it is. At least throw us a bone with a low resolution cell phone pic. Somethin' diz'amn!!!

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[john bigonion]

easy there chuckles, go to car domain and look up a 90 acura legend in Michigan, I think it's the only one. BUT, I did forget to take a pic of that specific item. I think I have one laying around, If I find it I'll take pics, Ok.

 

[john bigonion]

right now I'm running a wear test, the right upper control arm(in the pic) is stock, the left one is cut and welded. I want to see how much tire wear will be different between the 2.

 

[Fut]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2159826

 

[john bigonion]

how do you do that???

 

[Fut]

how do you do that???

Cut & paste Did I miss something? I didn't see any welding to correct camber you've spoke of.

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[john bigonion]

the other side is welded, I put a stock one on this side to see if the tire wear will different, and if so how much.

 

[1genacura]

Guys you know I have been looking at the Camber Kits for the Honda Accord. If you look at the upper control arm on our cars(88-90 cps,sedans) the Control arms bolt can be removed and insert the ones for the Accord camber. I do not have the funds to purchase or have and extra upper control arm to test with.

Does anyone have a comment on this??????????????????
IS this a Possible method for correction?????????????????????

 

[john bigonion]

not sure, might be possible, maybe. They are both hondas.

 

[johnny3]

Both (cut/weld or heat/bend) lean toward "blacksmith" methods. When you want your car lowered or don't want to replace worn-out springs/shocks to get the camber back to spec. & no adjustable a-arms are to be had either you can replace tires often or do one of the above. Also, you don't bend cast metal, alum.,iron ,pot metal, heated or cold, it's too rigid (as it should be) it will fracture. Forged carbon steel can be heated & bent, then allowed to cool naturally without quenching with no measurable loss in strength.

 

[Fut]

Where are the pics John Bigonion? We want pics - We want pics - We want pics... oops or is it just me? Ok then... I want pics - I want pics - I want pics...

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[john bigonion]

easy there chuckles, I'm putting in a complete exhaust on a ford f150. It should be done friday, sat I have rotate the rubber so I will get you pics then, OK?

 

[Fut]

easy there chuckles, I'm putting in a complete exhaust on a ford f150. It should be done friday, sat I have rotate the rubber so I will get you pics then, OK?

Ok... a week has come and gone. Where are the pics?

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[john bigonion]

Dude, I'm really sorry, but on saturday an incredible deal fell on my lap. I was going to fix a guy's legend and he brought it over on sat. Well after talking to him he decided not to fix it but sell it. He asked if I wanted to buy it, I said yeah right, he said $250. Well after I got up and cleaned my shorts I went to the atm and gave him the money for an 88 legend coupe, almost no rust. needs a little work but I have a jap engine waiting for it. I will get pics as soon as possible.