EBC vs. Metal Master?

IS the Axxis any good?
Where can i get the EBC?

I"m also interested in finding out the difference between these two brands. I am currently using the Axxis metalmaters on my OEM rotors for almost a year now and I am really happy with them! Great performance and have lasted so long! I drive my car hard and also brake hard and to have them last this long is amazing.

But lately I've been hearing alot of hype over the EBC pads. So I'd like to know the differences. So far I'd be a repeat buyer of the Axxis pads unless others who have used both pads find the EBC better.

Also how is the EBC on brake dust? The Axxis are not as bad as the OEM pads, but over time they do add their thin layer of dust.

G

Axis is a good pad, although I have never used them. Most people seem to like them. EBC is a Kevlar matrix very similar to the KVR Kevlar pads. As for brake dust, on my stock rotors they dust very, very little. After about 2 weeks there might a some light dust.

I'm pretty sure that Metallic pads have longer life. However, even under a little more than a year of abuse(13k miles), my EBC have only worn 1/4 ~ 1/3 at the most.(please notice this is w/ X-drilled rotors) I remember reading Civic tuner's article saying that his only lasted a little more than a year, I have no idea how he was driving

I've also been trying to find out is Metal Master's friction coefficient and fading point, but have had no luck. Does anyone know??

Hmmm, I thought we had more metal master users here. I have always heard good things about metal master, so I was curious about EBC. I may end up going with metal masters.

I've used MetalMasters, and am using EBC Green Stuff right now.

MMs are good pads, no doubt about it. Dusting is also pretty minimal. As far as how they compare, can't say at this time coz I'm still working on bedding the EBCs and breaking my rotors in. So far, I like how the EBCs feel. They seem very "sure".

I just got my metal masters installed about a month ago and I'm very happy with the performance. I had organic pads before (what a mistake) and the axxis pads have much less brake dust. Also, I still haven't found a situation which caused brake fade with these pads, and I've taken the car out to the races a few times since (some serious freeway driving going on over there from track to track and to run from cop scares and such). Anyway, I'm pretty happy with these pads.

-GR

just got my green stuff today...(thanks graeme for the 411) ill let u guys know how i like them once i get them installed.

Im getting a few sets of TOMS brake pads from Japan
the backs are painted Red and Im told these are similiar to the Green Stuff pads.

Will advise once I get them on my Coupe

I do have Axxis on the Sedan and they work just fine!

Regards, James

I am now trying the Axxis pads, as I had the AEM pads before.

the Axxis pads are very good, just a little dust at times....my AEM's lasted me a while...a long while, w/ minimal dust. I think that the Axxis MM's will offer you a good time, I have enjoyed them so far.

I will try EBC's next time just so I know. I highly suggest getting some drilled rotors while you are at it to take FULL advantage of what you've got

James S said:

Im getting a few sets of TOMS brake pads from Japan
the backs are painted Red and Im told these are similiar to the Green Stuff pads.

Will advise once I get them on my Coupe

I do have Axxis on the Sedan and they work just fine!

Regards, James

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TOMS??? I thought they major in Toyota~

Anyways, the red back plate would be blocked by the shims once you install them on the caliper, isn't it?? Or is there some way around it???

claus44 said:

TOMS??? I thought they major in Toyota~

Anyways, the red back plate would be blocked by the shims once you install them on the caliper, isn't it?? Or is there some way around it???

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Yup. Paint the shims.

LegendGS said:

Yup. Paint the shims.

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Good idea, I never though about that. Now that I have my new rotors installed, I was thinking about finally plaiting all my brake parts like the caliper, bracket, and even the heat shield. I never though about the shims though.

ChrisK said:

Good idea, I never though about that.

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Hehe... Me neither,... until now.

lol~ you guys But shim is soft rubber right?? So gotta mix the paint with primer??? Well, I'll let Graeme be the white mouse(as always, ahaha), see how it looks, then decide

Another point to note when you guys are comparing the two brands of pads are cold stops.

I notice the metalmasters when I havn't really used the brakes that hard and are still cold, they're not that good compared to when they are really heated by a few hard stops. I'm curious to know how the EBC does in this department.

G

claus44 said:

lol~ you guys But shim is soft rubber right?? So gotta mix the paint with primer??? Well, I'll let Graeme be the white mouse(as always, ahaha), see how it looks, then decide

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No, the shims are metal. When painting flexible parts, the difference is that the paint is mixed with a flex agent. This allows the parts to flex without the paint cracking. You still use a primer (also flexible) seperate from it though.

All that said, being that the shims are metal, no flex agent is needed.

Hmmm, thanks for all the replys guys.

LegendGS said:

No, the shims are metal. When painting flexible parts, the difference is that the paint is mixed with a flex agent. This allows the parts to flex without the paint cracking. You still use a primer (also flexible) seperate from it though.

All that said, being that the shims are metal, no flex agent is needed.

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