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Honda Tuning Oct2006:Custom supercharger

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Has anybody read the artical on the custom supercharger for a 1996 RL on page 74? They put together a parts list and list of companies that can get it going. I have been waiting a long time for this and will look into getting this setup if the price is right and the performance is good.
 
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^^ LMAO... sure Diaz was three steps ahead of us on this one.

I give them a few months.
 
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i am just scared you will have to cut a hole in your cowl hood....aaaah

but then again....that would scare the shit outta some civics.wait...all of them
 
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tnelson said:
What type of SC is that kit working with......
The same damn SC that we have discussed in this forum, the Eaton M90. I had one at one time but then sold it to my friend who has a Pontiac Grand Prix who wants to convert it to a GTP. I priced a custom intake manifold from a friend of mine who owns a shop and he quoted me $1500+, and I just couldn't afford that.

Edit: I believe Mike Diaz thought of this a long time ago. I bought my Legend and had a friend who had a Thunderbird supercoupe and saw how damn similar their engine setup was to the Legend and that's why I joined this forum, to check out if anyone had done it or thought about it. I knew it had potential when I saw that other people had the similar idea, such as LS92, Swift, Alp etc.
 
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Mikey851 said:
The same damn SC that we have discussed in this forum, the Eaton M90. I had one at one time but then sold it to my friend who has a Pontiac Grand Prix who wants to convert it to a GTP. I priced a custom intake manifold from a friend of mine who owns a shop and he quoted me $1500+, and I just couldn't afford that.
Makes sense. Now that i have been looking at some more drag cars and tire sizes, if we have a good high boost solution, we are actually going to need a bit of lag just to hook up those damn front tires.
 
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tnelson said:
What type of SC is that kit working with...... If its a roots style, fuck, we have enough traction problems as is. I would like to see one done like TJs car, only done right. Maybe with a bit more custom work to the top end, ie, lifters, HEAVY port and valve work, and riding on some slicks.
You're right about the traction problem. This is why I agree with you completely that TJs setup will be the most efficient way to utilize FI on a Legend. We will be able to avoid the lag of a big turbo, but create as much max boost; oh yeah, I definately agree with you on that one.
 
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tnelson said:
Makes sense. Now that i have been looking at some more drag cars and tire sizes, if we have a good high boost solution, we are actually going to need a bit of lag just to hook up those damn front tires.
Yeah, unless they do some modification to the suspension and get slicks (assuming they can figure out a tuning solution), I don't know how they will put that power down to the ground, especially on the damn C35.
 
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Mike Diaz said:
On the Thunderbird SC, most of the power comes at higher RPM's. On the other hand, the Grand Prix GTP's have more power down low.

I guess it's all in the engine setup.
Yeah I know what you mean. But, I just meant that no matter what engine you put it on, a roots blower will always be used on an application where the person building it knows they need more power down low, and that the application can handle that. I do think it's a good idea and has potential on a Legend (Especially for a street application for fun); but I think if you would want to make a competitive drag Legend, then you would probably want to use either a turbo or a centrifugal so that you could utilize the engine's natural powerband. There is one thing that is definately good about a roots blower is that it's positive displacement and does not compress inside the housing like on a centrifugal, turbo or a twin screw; that allows you to use the roots to "assist" on getting these fat ass cars moving, and along with other efficiency mods will pay off.
 
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LS92Sedan said:
turbo can be done, but there is alot we dont know about how a turbo is going to react with our cars. For starters the engine bay is awfully cramped for all the piping and what not, plus, ambient engine temps are gonna skyrocket. I'd personally like to see a twin set up on our cars, single would be ok, but not as efficient as a twin set up. Buzzard is running single with good success, but keep in mind thas not with a legend chassis.
I am leaning towards a centrifugal; if I had the money I would start a project right now.
 
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yeah centrifugal is the way to go on an auto drag car right mikey..lol

1200-1500 for a "cheap" procharger by itself...jeez
 
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Mike Diaz said:
I feel ya, but add in either the modified or custom intake prices (For the normal person who doesn't have alot of hookups) and you'll be on just about the same level.

We could go on and on about what would be better for what, and at one point I thought the roots would be the best as well. I'll put it like this; I like FI Legends period! :giggle: I don't give a shit how someone does it, but if they do, and get it running right they get my respect and admiration, you know what I mean?
 
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swift said:
yeah centrifugal is the way to go on an auto drag car right mikey..lol

1200-1500 for a "cheap" procharger by itself...jeez
Well, you know my stance on the subject haha. Centri vs. Turbo vs. Roots; the centri (while costing more for the unit) would be the best way to boost a Legend on a budget; and we're just talking for fun, kind of like a street/strip car.

If someone wants to make a little over 300WHP, and be the king of the highway and shock some people at the strip, go buy a used (in good condition) centrifugal of your choice, fab up the bracketry, and buy an AEM EMS and tune her up. Simple as that :giggle: . But seriously though, it will be the most simple setup, and probably in the end the cheapest setup that will put down some good numbers. The centri also allows for expansion, and for sure you could turn it into an all out dragster if you wanted and had the money.

Edit: Now Mike Diaz, you have the cowl hood already, so for you it's practical. The roots will go nicely with your 3.5 as well.
 
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yeah diaz you can go roots.. the rest of us cant without modifying hood which i will not do and also we of course will have traction issues so we would have to invest in LSD and axles.

Thats why i am going turbo.


I am still waiting for this article...may be a few years.:giggle:
 
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I was told the ETA on the intake manifold was before thanksgiving.

I don't know if the cowl hood is a must. I'm think the M90 will sit down far enough into the valley and not stick up farther than the stock hood would allow.

Of course, I can send my hood out to be duplicated if needed :D
 
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Mike Diaz said:
I was told the ETA on the intake manifold was before thanksgiving.

I don't know if the cowl hood is a must. I'm think the M90 will sit down far enough into the valley and not stick up farther than the stock hood would allow.

Of course, I can send my hood out to be duplicated if needed :D
You're probably right; with a low profile intake plenum, the Eaton will sit pretty low. Even then you risk high engine temperatures, especially if someone runs a non intercooled setup, they will definately need to get a cowl hood like yours.