Hondatuning has supercharged RL...

yea, i noticed that too. it doesn't look like they have it done yet, its just plans, but they said more will come in the next issue. it would be sweeet if they actaully come up with somehting

I remember reading something about that RL in the previous HT issues as well, don't remember which issue exactly. Or maybe I'm wrong.

KindBuddy said:

I glanced at a current issue(october) and saw that they are following an RL being supercharged. I was wondering if anyone had payed attention to it or maybe saw what they were going to use for management?

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What gen RL?

It's a first gen RL. They're using the supercharger from a Thunderbird SC like Diaz and some others have talked about. Should be interesting.

Kenso said:

It's a first gen RL. They're using the supercharger from a Thunderbird SC like Diaz and some others have talked about. Should be interesting.

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oh really!? id love to see how they adapt that. HT is 1 month behind on my subscription, i just recivied my article issue two days ago.

Can someone post it here?

~Dv8

I am interested to see if they get it to make good power. If they have money and good resources it will be possible. Wonder what they attempt to use for tuning. I had an M90 at one point, but when I went to go get a custom intake manifold made or a Supercoupe manifold modified, it would've cost me well over $1500; maybe I just didn't know the right people.

Dv8 said:

oh really!? id love to see how they adapt that. HT is 1 month behind on my subscription, i just recivied my article issue two days ago.

Can someone post it here?

~Dv8

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I don't know if you ever read one of the thread where we were talking about this, but it appears that the setup on the Supercoupe would almost fit right onto a Legend with certain modifications. Then we started taking measurements .

i'll post it in a sec...

Mikey851 said:

I am interested to see if they get it to make good power. If they have money and good resources it will be possible. Wonder what they attempt to use for tuning. I had an M90 at one point, but when I went to go get a custom intake manifold made or a Supercoupe manifold modified, it would've cost me well over $1500; maybe I just didn't know the right people.

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biggest problem i see with a blown Legend is not so much the ECU, but if they made a custom pulley with a custom belt and where they relocated the TB......

~Dv8

Yeah, it appears the TB must be relocated to the back, like how it is on the Supercoupe; I hate the abrupt turn it makes though, but I guess with a roots blower that doesn't matter so much. Same thing with runner length; on the SC the runners are part of a single plane manifold and are probably each a few inches long. The intake manifold sits under the blower.

Edit: The weirdest part about it is that the supercharger sits upside down in the setup. The stock pulley only boosts to 5psi, but Magnussen makes a 10psi pulley for it. Yeah, the custom belt will be interesting. As far as extending the nose of the blower, that will be easy because they make extension shafts for all Eaton products.

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Edit: The weirdest part about it is that the supercharger sits upside down in the setup.

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I actually thought about this. The supercharger fits in the valley between the heads, so that may work better. I don't know about how the oil inside the supercharger will react to being on the top of the supercharger vs. the bottom.

Mike Diaz said:

I actually thought about this. The supercharger fits in the valley between the heads, so that may work better. I don't know about how the oil inside the supercharger will react to being on the top of the supercharger vs. the bottom.

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It will be fine; their superchargers will work updside down, sideways, inverted haha. Have you seen the Supercoupe setup in person? The blower is actually upside down on it; the plenum that says 3.8 on it attaches to the blower outlet.

Another weird thing about the supercoupe setup is after the charge makes it through the intercooler and back to the rear of the engine it takes a sharp turn down towards the valley and up under the blower.

Edit: NM, I see what you're saying now Mike. They are using the blower upsidedown compared to how it is on the Supercoupe haha. That should work out well.

i am pissed

wow. maybe we should just wave at the nerd at HT that is on the forum:type:

You see guys i have 3 of the pics on my computer that are in that article. I also have all the volumetric effieciency charts for the M90/M62 and i have all measurement of both in length, height, width etc... I was also going to install in it upside down to use the stock type 2 manifold. It may have worked except for one small thing.....and the funniest thing...the most built up coupe ever... ran into the same problem.

SO yeah i should bet HT on doing this. But then again there is that whole management issue thing...lol

sorry guys i hate when they write complete garbage. "hey why don't we rent a car and put NOS on it"...

latta

swift said:

wow. maybe we should just wave at the nerd at HT that is on the forum:type:

You see guys i have 3 of the pics on my computer that are in that article. I also have all the volumetric effieciency charts for the M90/M62 and i have all measurement of both in length, height, width etc... I was also going to install in it upside down to use the stock type 2 manifold. It may have worked except for one small thing.....and the funniest thing...the most built up coupe ever... ran into the same problem.

SO yeah i should bet HT on doing this. But then again there is that whole management issue thing...lol

sorry guys i hate when they write complete garbage. "hey why don't we rent a car and put NOS on it"...

latta

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I would rather give them a call and point them in the right direction so we can get custom intake manifolds made. The engine management part CAN be taken care of with a good chunk of change for a stand alone.

Wow, thanks for the post up, Alperovich! I didn't expect that.

Maybe Telion can make them a custom chip, lol.

Great Post....I love what Honda Tuning is doing! I'm going to grab that issue!


What's confusing me is if they're going to use a regular drive belt or are they going to try to use the TB...using the TB wouldn't be the smartest thing to do...not with this application, seeing as how we don't have "extended" versions of our timing belt.

Also, Dv8....how do you move the timingbelt to the "rear" of the engine?????

The supercoupe was OHV so it had pushrods...i can't see them needing to move the Timingbelt, and i can't see the timing belt being moved without a rediculous amount re-engineering.

B+O said:

Great Post....I love what Honda Tuning is doing! I'm going to grab that issue!

What's confusing me is if they're going to use a regular drive belt or are they going to try to use the TB...using the TB wouldn't be the smartest thing to do...not with this application, seeing as how we don't have "extended" versions of our timing belt.

Also, Dv8....how do you move the timingbelt to the "rear" of the engine?????

The supercoupe was OHV so it had pushrods...i can't see them needing to move the Timingbelt, and i can't see the timing belt being moved without a rediculous amount re-engineering.

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Sorry for the confusion Bang, me and DV8 were talking about the Throttle Body, not timing belt. HT says they are having a custom crank pulley made so they can have extra space to drive the blower. In this setup we would have to move our throttle body. The way it will have to be setup (because of the way the blower sits) is the throttle body placed on the pipe leading to the supercharger inlet, almost just like the Supercoupe setup. The only variable is how HT sets it up. If they install it exactly like the setup on the supercoupe then the TB will be on the passenger side and if they install the setup upside down it will be on the driver side.