i know exactly how you feel. keep it realDaTimez420 said:one more thing i have to add is one thing even stupider than racing on the streets is racing on the streets with people you know or care about in the car...because i know if it was me and i crashed and my passengers died and i was the only one who survived, i would wish i had been killed rather than have it on my conscience for the rest of my life....because it is one thing to risk the lives of all the people on the streets, but to risk that of those you know and care about simply to try to show off or prove that your car is faster or better.
As long as I've been going out there, I haven't seen ONE passer by vehicle on that road. It's a completely industrial street that is totally abondoned at night. Like I also said earlier, I haven't yet seen one accident there. There is no need for rescue vehicles when cars are driving in a straight line for a 1/4 mile. My personal view on this, and I mean NO DISREPECT BY THIS AT ALL, is that unless you have been out there with us, you can't comment on how dangerous it is. Going out to the track is fine, but i'm not down to spend 20 bucks to wait four hours and get two runs out of it. Sorry, that's just not worth my time or money. And I don't think I'm immortal, I know things can go wrong, but the chance of something going wrong out there is lower than something going wrong in everyday traffic. Plus, in order to enjoy life you have to take some risks. That's just how it is. If the cops would help us out here and close off that damn street that no one uses anyway for a few hours a night, we wouldn't have to "break the law", but they have better things to do like give out fix tickets for window tint . Sorry about the long post, but I just hate it when people think we're doing stupid a** s*** and we're completely reckless without ever being out there and seeing it in person.Dave C ver2.0 said:OK fine. How do you restrict traffic on public roads (to avoid collisions)? Where are your safety and rescue vehicles? At least you got that at the track (it gives you a chance of surviving a crash).
People who think their immortal.
Just how do you go about seeing morgue pictures like that? Uggghh... Do they show them? I thought stuff like this was like confidential or something...???Dave C ver2.0 said:Anyone seen the morgue picture of Lisa Lopes? Or the picttures of that ferrari crash that litterally shredded the occupants? Keep it on the track guys. HS cruising is one thing but racing is another.
innocent victims are still killed even when these "precautions" are taken. did you not hear about the person killed on Mission Blvd in Union City last year? She was coming off her shift at a retirement home at about 4AM, coming out of the driveway turning left onto Mission. Some street racers hit her. She died. Don't remember what happened to the guys that hit her.... or the one that got away.GenIILegend said:I don't wanna sound like a complete a**hole here, and I do feel very bad for anyone who gets hurt racing, but I believe that if the racing is organized, even though it is illegal, it is safe. Here in the Bay Area, when we race, it's very late at night, far out in the cut, no other traffic around, and only on a 1/4 mile basis in which most cars don't break 115 mph. To me, this is entirely justfiable. I haven't yet seen one person get hurt. What I don't like is when people race through traffic. Can't justify that for a second.
Well, I'm not sure how I can possibly make myself any more clear, but I'll try. There are absolutely no buildings, pretty much no civilization where we race. It might as well be in the middle of a desert. If those who race get hurt, I don't see that as a major problem anyway. It's like playing football, you get hurt for the love of the game. I realize that sometimes people can die (very rarely) but you can die doing a lot of things. I'm sure there are quite a few people killed each year in routine plane trips. Anyway, if no one participated in street racing, what's the point of modifying our Legends then? Are you just gonna spend thousands of dollars to know that your car is fast and never use it? The track goes hand in hand with racing, it isn't a substitute. And until the f*ckin pigs that we call law enforcement give us a different outlet, they'll just have to deal with it. They're the ones being entirely ignorant here, not us. I will defend my position on this matter to whoever wants to challenge it.katonk said:
innocent victims are still killed even when these "precautions" are taken. did you not hear about the person killed on Mission Blvd in Union City last year? She was coming off her shift at a retirement home at about 4AM, coming out of the driveway turning left onto Mission. Some street racers hit her. She died. Don't remember what happened to the guys that hit her.... or the one that got away.
street racing is dangerous no matter what "precautions" you take. for the safety of others (and yourself) I hope you quit (be it by choice or force).
THANK YOU!!! Finally, someone that's actually been out there and guess what... they agree with me! Please, before you claim to know all the statistics on racing accidents, just go out there and see it for yourself. I have seen video of people gathering and racing on populated streets, which is pure idiocy, but that's not what most of us do. Just give it a chance u will see what I mean. Thank you guys for bringing up this topic cuz it always makes me want to prove a point. Keep in mind that I respect each and every one of your opinions, it's just that I really think that before you can comment on something like this, u really gotta see it for yourself .G2-GS said:
GEN11...i'm with you man! I've been out there too...not to race but just to watch. It's pretty safe unless you got a bunch of dumbas;ses who wants to be reckless. Other than that...it's pretty cool...and fun to watch.
Why modify your car if you're not gonna street race?GenIILegend said:
if no one participated in street racing, what's the point of modifying our Legends then?