Acura Legend Forum banner
1 - 20 of 20 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
166 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I got my tyranny flushed at Jiffy Lube (yes I know, don’t flame me, but I was there getting the cleaning done that they hook up to your intake, I forget what you call it, and I remembered its about time for a tyranny flush and fill) and latter that day I have no more 2nd gear! It just revs like hell in 1st then shifts to 3rd. when I go to start the car D4 will light up till the engine is started.

Did they no tighten something? I did check the fluid levels, and it’s good. Would they have done something that would make my tyranny do this?? Because if so I would think they owe me another.

Any suggestions I should try, should I call them today and start yelling?
 

·
502MotorSports.com
Joined
·
9,321 Posts
Hate to tell you this, but this may have caused a problem for you..i.e. synchronizer, or other portion of your tranny. Whne my tranny was doing that, I inquired about getting a flush to a very good ACk Mech that I know and he said it fixes the problem 99% of the time...however, it can also CAUSE the problem too.

It sounds like your syncro's could be bad. Best solution in this situation is to find a low mileage tranny and replace it. BUT, if you find a tranny that is damn near new, be prepared to rebuild or replace your motor....you know the weakest link is the portion of the drivtrain that is older than the newest one.....

Sorry to hear that...that is why I did my FULL swap
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
166 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
ya, it doesn't sound like its going to be cheap. but I am going to take it to see what the problem is. hopfully they put in GM tranny fluid or something (that would be great!).


this is an Auto... I only referenced this on the (D4) light, so Ill point that out again just incase
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,039 Posts
Jiffy Lube doesnt use Honda ATF

Do the Honda ATF drain and fill 3 times.
See if that fixes ur issue.

Dexron sucks.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,039 Posts
Legend O Power said:
I actually told them to use Honda ATF, and its on my recept that thats what they used, I even paid $10 more for it
They have something that "resembles" Honda ATF

I wouldnt doubt if they pulled a ***** move on you and lied to you straight to your face about HONDA ATF.

Just try it out
Go to Honda/Acura dealer
Get urself some ATF

Do drain and fill, a few times (every oil change)
and then see what's up... ?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
77 Posts
Some additional tranny information-
I had a 91 L Coupe auto with 150M miles. Everything was working fine and I thought a recomended trans-flush at the Acura Dealer would be a good idea. WRONG! Less than 1000 miles later the trans died completely on the way home from work- nothing in any gear! $2500.00 later the car was back on the road with a re-built transmission. I heard the flush is the wrong thing to do on a high milage car.
I am driving a 93 LS Coupe 120M miles and just had the dealer drain and re-fill, (no flushing) the trans with the Honda ATF. I noticed an overall improvement asap.
 

·
Moderator
Joined
·
2,879 Posts
Does this mean I should'nt do the 4x tranny flush then? I don't wanna mess around w/my tranny either and plus I only have 65K on my 91 sedan.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,106 Posts
There is a big difference in performing a drain/refill under pressure vs just performing a drain/refill 3x. The only pressure apparatus listed in the HELM in respect to the A/T or radiator is a pressure solvent/cleaner used to clean the A/T cooler located in the radiator. Having performed a 3x drain/refill myself and finding immediate improvement, I would suggest that before you spend $2k, you spend $60 and perform a 3x drain/refill using Honda A/T.
According to the HELM (why everyone on this forum hasn't ordered one yet, is beyond my understanding) "no Second Gear" could be due to: Shift cable broken/out of adjustment; 2nd clutch defective; 2nd clutch accumulator defective; Sprag clutch defective; sealing rings/guide worn. Also could be clogged oil screen due to steel/alum particulate (? result from power flush). You didn't mention any flashing D4??
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,048 Posts
LPB said:
Having performed a 3x drain/refill myself and finding immediate improvement, I would suggest that before you spend $2k, you spend $60 and perform a 3x drain/refill using Honda A/T.
When u did the 3x flush, did you bother to drive it around between flushes or you just flushed it once, let it sit and dilute and then flush it again, etc. I would think the only way to really get the flush to have any effect is to drive it around between flushes. This scares me now, since I never heard of this, when u do flushes.

Will a regular flush and drain using Honda ATF have this issue OR is this mostly in regards to using non-Honda ATF to aid in the flushing, such as F-Type Fluid or Dextron III? Cuz, I was intending on doing the 4x Flush, which includes F-Type Fluid (much more harsh and more of a detergent vs. Dextron or Honda on the first drain, then Dextron on the second, followed by Honda ATF on 3rd and 4th flush.
 

·
Moderator
Joined
·
2,879 Posts
yea same question, should i use the Dextron Fluid or use Honda ATF fluid throughout? If using honda then i guess theres no need for using smart blend.

asianlegend said:


Will a regular flush and drain using Honda ATF have this issue OR is this mostly in regards to using non-Honda ATF to aid in the flushing, such as F-Type Fluid or Dextron III? Cuz, I was intending on doing the 4x Flush, which includes F-Type Fluid (much more harsh and more of a detergent vs. Dextron or Honda on the first drain, then Dextron on the second, followed by Honda ATF on 3rd and 4th flush.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,039 Posts
In regards to drain and fill

I did the Drain and Fill w/ my G1.

I did it 3 times.

I didnt really do the F-detergent (i hear that's the best for cleaning out stuff), but I'm lazy and I wanted to do it the easiest way possible.

Solution:

Get Honda ATF, get oil change, change both at same time.

3-4k miles later.

Get Honda ATF, get oil change, change both @ same time again

I did this 3 times overall.
The first time was the MOST noticeable.
The car gallopped like a horse.

The 3rd one was the least noticeable, but I think it positively affected my gas mileage, as I was always at like 22-23 mpg. (for an automatic g1, that's pretty darned good)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,106 Posts
From an old past posting by a person named Gil who is an Acura transmission specialist, it was recommended that you initially use Ford A/T fluid due to its high-detergent formula. This will probally perform a more through loosening of any particulate which has not remain suspended. Could this result in the screen becoming clogged? Your guess is as good as mine.

When you perform the 3x drain/refill you should drive at least 20 minutes in order to bring the vehicle up to operating temp as well as running through all of the upshifts. The point is to throughly blend the old fluid with the new until at the last change, the old fluid has been diluted to the point of being negligible. Each time you drain/refill check the particulate on the drain bolt.

It was yrs ago (on the old Forum) when I first learned of using only Honda. The shift change from using Dexron was immediate. Although the service interval is 24 months/30,000 miles, I change mine yearly...just for added piece of mind.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
166 Posts
Discussion Starter · #15 ·
I might try the 3x drain/refill... and check my shift cable...

as a new entry, I was driving to work today, and I go through a few stop lights, and 2 of them, my car shifted into 2nd..:confused: :confused: :confused: .... I have been driving it really softly so it would go from 1st to 3rd with out 1st winding out everytime, and it just kinda shifted into 2nd twice.... im so lost! LOL
 

·
502MotorSports.com
Joined
·
9,321 Posts
Legend O Power said:
I might try the 3x drain/refill... and check my shift cable...

as a new entry, I was driving to work today, and I go through a few stop lights, and 2 of them, my car shifted into 2nd..:confused: :confused: :confused: .... I have been driving it really softly so it would go from 1st to 3rd with out 1st winding out everytime, and it just kinda shifted into 2nd twice.... im so lost! LOL
yeah...mine did the same thing...I was being really gentle, and then one day it started shifting into 2nd. from that point forward I was cool.....but then I had a HIGH speed drive STR8 to Memphis, TN. To make a long story short, I was there for 1 week on business, and the roads out there are horrible....sort of like pothole city!

Well, when I was on my way back I noticed she didn'tlike being drove hard over 90mph.....whne I returned to ATl, she started again..no 2nd gear...about a month later, she was gone.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
432 Posts
Leon wrote:
>I returned to ATl, she started again..no 2nd
>gear...about a month later, she was gone.

This means the shift problem was gone or was your transmission gone?
 

·
0000$$$$0000####0000
Joined
·
4,943 Posts
Hopefully Dave C will see this post and chime in here. But I remember hims saying never do a power trans flush. If my memory serves me correctly, he took his car in to the local Acura dealer to have amoong other things a power trans flush in which the service writter, or service manager recomended, but the head Acura technician refused to do the poweer trans flush and later returned with an Acura TSB stating why it is NOT recomended by Acura. I would stick to Gills 3X trans flush and never do a power flush.
 

·
Moderator
Joined
·
2,879 Posts
I emailed Peter (aka PSA) and he told me not to do the 4x flush unless there is drastic problems. Other then that you should just do a drain an fill with every oil change using honda fluid.

In regards to Dave C's post on having problems after doing a power flush check here:

http://forums.prod.legend.org/performance/threads/591.phtml#2723
 
1 - 20 of 20 Posts
Top