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Yeah, I know they're not the same type of car, but still.. in your opinion who would win..

A 1994 Prelude VTEC 5-speed or a 1994 LegendGS Sedan Automatic?

I'm guessing the prelude right? The VTECs carry 190HP in that year I think. The TypeII is 230.. but I figure the weight would be a huge factor, on top of that the Auto VS Stick thing.
 

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FutureX 2001 said:
Yeah, I know they're not the same type of car, but still.. in your opinion who would win..

A 1994 Prelude VTEC 5-speed or a 1994 LegendGS Sedan Automatic?

I'm guessing the prelude right?
the Legend...
Why?
On the track, I raced a Lude, had excessive wheelspin when I shifted to 2nd, scared him, and he was spraying, and he only won by .4 seconds. (I had wet tires) Had we done it again, I know I would have won. He told me that I scared him because I had him...then I was spinning...he was like Oh [email protected]$!

Depends on what mods are on the lude, too...

I have raced them on the road, and won...lots of variables here
 

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This one is easy. I ripped a prelude of that body style to pieces at a stop light in my 91 auto sedan. The only thing i know he had was exhaust (the only thing i could see) which looked like a GReddy. I've also raced my friend several times in his 2000 prelude SH, and it's been real close every time. I'm usually right on his rear bumper (but my newly aquired 75 shot of nitrous should fix that, hehe). Anyway, there's a reason that honda no longer makes the prelude, it's cuz legends OWN them :D .

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I say Legend. Reason: torque, torque, torque!
 
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I say Legend. Reason: torque, torque, torque!
Does the legend really have more torque than a Lude, I thought that the Legend hardly had any torque. :rolleyes:

I have a feeling that if the guy knew how to drive the stick he may win. I have a friend with a Civic with a GSR engine, that is now turbo'd but before he had the turbo, he would still beat me. Not by much, but he was a good driver and that was why he would win. That is the thing about comparing a stick and a manual. Lots of the time you'll end up racing some kid who doesn't know what they are doing and it just doesn't do the car justice.

BTW, my friends Civic is getting like 300hp at the wheels now. It's a kick to ride in, he's never let me drive it :( :D.
 

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210 @ 4500 i believe. I'm not sure what a lude has, but i'm willing to bet it's below 200 cuz my friends 2K accord V6 only has 190 and that's a torquier engine than the prelude.

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my good friend has a 5 speed 93 prelude vtec with CAI, exhaust, and headers. im almost positive he would smoke me in my stock 91 5speed coupe. if we got to speed up to 100+ it might be a different story but those vtec ludes are no joke especially if driven right. maybe ill go race him today.
 

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u should go race him because you should win. My friend has a 97 vtech lude with exhaust, intake, headers, cam gears and i beat him on the highway. but i dono how raged out yor engine is i mean there is alot of variables. And for the guy with a frend with a civic and a GSR engine i mean the civic is ALOT lighter than our legends and with the GSR engine i mean it helps alot.
 

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stock auto TypeII Legend vs. a modded 94 Lude...

A Type II should definitely win, not by a big margin, but it should still take it. The lude will have the launch, but the torque and the top end of the TypeII will let you catch and pass him, hands down.

On a drag, with a good launch you will have him without a doubt. On the highway, no question... Our C32 has a wider powerband and longer legs than a peaky VTEC. Even if he has a VTEC controller and its set to kick in low(5500), he still doesnt have the RPM's to utilize the cam duration (unless its built up internally).

Remember, third gear auto is good up to around 100 mph. A good launching technique that has been pretty reliable for me is close to the brake torquing method, without revving too high.

-What i do is i have my left foot holding down the brake with my right slightly on the gas at about 700-800 rpm.

-I launch letting go of the brake while going WOT on the gas to the 5000-5500 rpm range.

-I then ease off slightly (.5 seconds) and floor it again
until the redline shift.

-This usually causes a nice chirp to second which isn't normally apparent with just wot all the way.

-Keep on it until you lead or beat him!

The regular brake torquing method doesn't work too well with the auto legend for some reason. I read about this technique from an post on the old, old UBB forum and it seems to work. You dont even need that much practice to perfect it!

Good Luck, go forth and kick some ASS!!!
 

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Re: Re: Prelude vs Legend Question...

LeGeNdZ_4_LiFe said:


the Legend...
Why?
On the track, I raced a Lude, had excessive wheelspin when I shifted to 2nd, scared him, and he was spraying, and he only won by .4 seconds. (I had wet tires) Had we done it again, I know I would have won. He told me that I scared him because I had him...then I was spinning...he was like Oh [email protected]$!

Depends on what mods are on the lude, too...

I have raced them on the road, and won...lots of variables here
Hey Leon,
Is someone using your screen name? This doesn't sound like you.
LOL, all the same.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Prelude vs Legend Question...

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Hey Leon,
Is someone using your screen name? This doesn't sound like you.
LOL, all the same.
lol

Yes, it was me...we raced, and he was p-o'd because he thought he'd whoop up on me, and he know I had a bad launch, no revving, ATUOMATIC vs his 5 Spd With NOS..lol

That was good..he told his buddies he'd leave me...unfotunately, my tires were wet, track was trashed from an earlier mishap, and I really had to go to the bathroom after sitting at the starting line for almost 3.5 hours!!!
 

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Ihave raced a bunch of last model preludes, and to be honset, non of them really was much a challenge, i think the key to those cars is the launch, and quite frankly, non of the times when I raced di they get a good luanch, one time my friend smoked his tires, and by the time I got to redline in second gear, I was about 4 car length ahead, another time when I raced another friend, he bogged tne engine, and didnt do any better than my other friends. the automatic preludes are SLOW, they dont even come close to standing a chance against any G2 legend.

however, I have been told that hte generation 3 (the one before the latest one), prelude is faster car becuase it is lighter, so it may be more a challenge, and with a good driver, it may be able to beat you, but I still think you should go for it, even if you loose by a little, a 3800 lb luxury sedan keeping up with 3100 lb sports car is not too shabby :)

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Thanks for all the information guys. Suprised that a 3500lbs Sedan would be capable of beating a Prelude VTEC 5-speed!

Basically, my uncle is now hunting for a car, he REALLY wants a prelude, 5-speed VTEC. He's looking at the 93+ Edition, but before the newest edition with the newer lights in the front.

He's driven both G1 and G2 Legends. He likes the G1, but thinks the G2 just kicksass. The problem is pricing, he's not looking to spend more than $6,000. So, he's pretty much ruled out G2 Legends... If it's a VTEC, I'm sure he's gonna want to compare it to the G2. However, as it's looking right now, he might get the Si 2.4L edition. Which is less powerful @ 160HP. If he gets that one, I'm sure he'll want to try against the G1 2.7 161HP. Now that one, will probably be a win for the prelude It's a ALOT lighter, the power is balanced, maybe I should take this to the G1 Forum as well :)
 

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I have raced my buddy in his 1996 Prelude 2.3 non-VTEC 5 speed w/ intake & exhaust. I have a 1994 Legend Coupe Type II w/ intake, chip.

He will smoke me all the time off the line and he will walk away from me on the freeway above 115 mph. I do own his car in one area.....3rd gear on the freeway. I pull and pull on him in 3rd from 60-115. After that he will reel me in and pass me up. Overall the Preludes, especially the VTEC's are quick quick cars. You might be able to fine a "sweet spot" against them but they might end up getting ya in the end.
 

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From a stop point the lude will have a weight advantage and if driven right will beat the legend. In at high end, the legend is the King. Too much power specially with the V6, compare to a V4. I had a Lude for a year, took it everywhere. My speciality was to make fun of those Mustang. It was a 93, 5sp and believe it or not I miss it sometimes, specially at a Red light. But the Torque power of the AC is just...........
 
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