[jigga622]

Supercharging a Legend!!!

well i saw all the posts about SC a legend so i wanted to know if the guy who actually did it, posts here. if so could we see some close up pics of the car? thanks

 

[Guest]

only pic i could find

 

[LeoLegendATL]

Yea, the guy was at nopi, Im not sure if he posts here or not. But the super charger dynoed at like 170hp to the wheels. I think the supercharger was mounted backwards.

 

[92coupeon18s]

the uspercharger was not working at all i dont think. I got a great pic of it in my NOPI pics but i dont feel like finding it. It looked to me where he needed an intake to come out he ran it to the exhaust but i dono it defiantely lookd good though. It was a vortech by the way.

--cody

 

[Guest]

i think the SC was disconnected for the run

 

[502 MotorSports]

that s/c has not been tuned for the car yet....still in r and d
only using an sAFc

he plans on getting a greddy emanage system

 

[NickD]

I remember May 2001 at the import show in Carlisle PA there was a Legend with a supercharger bolted in place but it didn't have the proper piping and wasn't really hooked up. It was just sitting there waiting to be finished. Dunno if that's the same guy or not.

 

[takemorepills]

that s/c has not been tuned for the car yet....still in r and d
only using an sAFc

he plans on getting a greddy emanage system

Hey now, the hardest part of getting S/C on a car is the actual brackets.....tuning is easy. You only need to do a few things....very SIMPLE things....
Timing retard relative to boost
Fuel enrichment using FPR and manipulation of a certain ECU signal (not gonna tell, keeping it to myself....)
MAP signal conditioner...
See, simple......
The hardest part for most people is coming up with the cash and designing good, strong, solid brackets. Hmmmm.....if I ever win the lotto I would attempt to do this to my car.........

 

[takemorepills]

OH man, now lets not get into a real trashing here man.
When I talk, you must think I talk out my a*s, like all I have done is read magazines or something.
Well, I have real world somewhat succesful experience.
I say somewhat successful because both cars I have S/C'ed run great 99% of the time. So, I know the real issues here, bro.
Those two cars have occasional, very occasional tip-in detonation, and yes we want to run the AEM EMS on it. But that is expensive. 1 car doubled it's wheel hp, and the other one added over 110 hp to the wheels.
One car had a JDM swap with previous driveability problems, the other was brand new.
The new car has a faulty BTM (boost timing management) circuit, otherwise that car runs perfect.
The owners of those cars and myself understand what final SMALL problems they have to get perfect driveability.
I have a clear understanding of all aspects of tuning and driveability, and I am confident that a Legend can lay down serious HP and maintain the majority of it's drivability....but after all, it is a heavily modded car at this point, an AEM EMS would be ideal, but not necessary.
So, please don't second guess me because you may not think I understand.......

 

[takemorepills]

And you're going to set "Timing retard relative to boost" how?

oh, i just caught this one.....obviously you are not as technically savvy as you like to think.....

There are many BTM units on the market. We used a MSD 6BTM.
HMMM, that's how, and yes it needs to be tuned, but 99% of the time it runs great.....

 

[FBoyCustoms]

Remember

95Legend6Speed....
Whats with the abrasive attitude man...
Maybe im just taking what you posted the wrong way but it seems like your kind of coming down on the people in this thread for not knowing as much as you or something.....
Man im sure everyone on this post would know how to setup and tune a SC or Turbo setup if they had $$$$$$$ ... i personally know nothing about it and havent looked into it because its a pipe dream... i dont have the resources to even consider doing a project like that... but if i did im sure I or anyone else would take the time to research the technology...

 

[SNEEK-E HONDA KA7]

Actually Fboy, it shows how little he knows. Hey, you are in AZ right?? You probably know the guys that have the supercharged Preludes...I know some new guy on the board mentioned Shane's car....

 

[FBoyCustoms]

ya.. i talked to him

Ya.... I talked to Shane the other day.. i friend of mine was having some probs with his CRX.. My buddy Matt (White RSX) told us to stop by... I check out his SC prelude... it looks pretty tight.. Shane is the guy that told me about using Blue lights to make my display look kind of like the JettaIV

 

[SNEEK-E HONDA KA7]

yeah, Shane was talking about my car

 

[FBoyCustoms]

aahh cool....

your posted about that right? I havent had a chance to look yet....

 

[SNEEK-E HONDA KA7]

nah, somebody else posted about it. They put up a pretty good post too. Mine was different because I used a neon lamp to light up my needles. The Street Glow 9" lamp is a perfect fit to replace the Acura stage light. You remove the acura stage light, and the neon tube fits perfect, even lining up with the holes on the neon and gauge assy. I have since gone to indiglows, but I still use that neon to light it up. If I can find pics of the install, I will post 'em. Lates..........

 

[FBoyCustoms]

My Bad...

I feel you... although i haven't been posting long ive monitored the boards (including the old one) ever since the first day i owned my legend.. i feel ya... i just got the impression you were coming down on the people that aren't as informed....
No hard feelins huh....

BTW.... have you ever talked to Forced Air Technologies? Just curious... the guy down there did that Turbo G1.... Don't know how reliable the source is but a guy i ran into with a 93 LS Sedan said he talked to him and he said he could do a turbo setup for around 5-6k...

 

[FBoyCustoms]

Pretty Smart...

Well from what you posted you seem pretty on top of things...
So ill ask.. (dont know if youve posted on it before)

Whats your opinion on dun dun dun "The NSX Swap" ?
Can it be done...(im sure it CAN) ... Will it be done.. (maybe it will)

 

[SNEEK-E HONDA KA7]

95, there is one thing for sure now. We come from 2 different schools. I will not accept your logic, and you will not accept mine. That we can agree on, right? You know your experiences, and I know mine.......it sounds like you know your stuff, and I can assure you I know mine, but we are at a Chevy vs. Ford thing here over the tuning method, so, I will leave it at that. I am as sure of my experiences and knowledge as you are. I am not discounting the AEM EMS, I was only saying it is not entirely neccessary to getting a S/C Legend running. Running and running "perfect" as you have stated are two different things. And yes, the AEM EMS along with the correct execution of a S/C install is the only path to a "perfect" running car, however it is no guarantee, only a "path". I never said BTM control or other less expenive means of fuel enrichment will get you running "perfect", only running good enough, at least to a point I would be happy. This is the point where it all starts, the DRAG Gen 1 kits were the same starting point, they worked, to some extent, alot was learned and alot was spent. The same applies to the Legend, if I can get a running, 90% tractible, hopefully, maybe reliable Legend going down the road at 6psi, I or someone would have made the BIGGEST step yet, then someone, maybe you or I would spend alot of time and effort shaking it down. But, the first steps need to be taken, without regard to perfect. Just like Drag Gen 1 led to Gen 2, this is the path that I am willing to take, it is easier to commit to this project if your short term goal is less than perfect. And of course the long term goal is perfection.
I respect what you know, even if you think I don't know sh1t, which is what it seems......we just come from different schools.

But I do take offense to they way you talk about me.....I really do.....

 

[B+O]

I feel you 95 and i feel you SNEEK

95: i understand where your coming from. It seems as though you have the "Walk before you crawl" syndrom going on. Yes, i know, you would like for it to be at 100% reliable but for companies like Greddy or Drag they went through millions in R&D. alot of our legend bretheren aren't that stout of funds. Sure, most of their products out now are reliable to the point of Perfection but they went through several stages. I feel your "DO it right the first time and Get up" theory but to do it right will cost alot more than what alot of people on the forums are willing to spend.

and with that i go to SNEEK

Take: You have more of a Shade Tree style to it. Sure, all the products you mention will do for the Super DIY'er. thats what is needed for the car to run somewhat reliable, a realistic number would be more like 80-90% reliable. and thats what you'd be happy with for the time being. BUT in the long run it'd probably be less expesive to hook up the EMS to a thought-out supercharger setup. i say less expensive because as you stated these are all piggy back machines and most can barely talk to one another. More expensive in ultimate Gas mileage, Repair, add to the price of all the products put together you could end up buying an EMS.


Im seeing both sides clearly and both of you have clearly agreeable and disagreeable points.