exactly... plus i have 12W3 myself. hahaa... my friend has a pair of 10W0. they were loud, but not deep enough for my tastes. just don't "feel" it with the W0's. i just hear them. but i have PPI 10" in my mom's minivan. sounds good in there tho probably cuz it's open cabin like hatches.pschitt said:Wo's are nice but i personly like W3's.. but now since the W7's are here i dont know.. i havent heard them yet but.. all JL's are good products..