[ahawkins]

Well i have a 1988 acura legend, and when i was driving home eysterday i tried rolling up my window but i heard a strange noise and now the window wont go up or down (currently in the down position) i got home and took apart the door panel, the window is still on the track, and the little mechanism that lifts up doesnt, the only thing i can see moving is some little bolt thing that spins around but thats it.....any one know what just happened?

 

[ND1980LS]

If it isn't off the tack then I'd say you need a new motor.

 

[RICDOGG]

spray some lubricant on the track

 

[WhtCastle]

This recently happened to my rear pass one (coupe.) I should try and look at it. Which window was it for you?

 

[Black_Panther]

Do you really need to roll up your window?
Its hot in pheonix!
the old folks in AZ ain't gonna steal your car..they can barely manage their own facilities

I'm just joshing you, i have the opposite problem...my pass window won't roll down!
I'll take some pics when I take/tear my door apart

BP

 

[ahawkins]

well actually i need my window up at night because ive had my car brokin into more than once....so i dont trust anyone anymore......but yeah its on my drivers side door..the one i use to get into the drivers seat. i'll try lubricating it and see if it does anything, but if not i'll take it somewhere and get it checked out

 

[ahawkins]

well i tried lubricating it but that didnt work, im out of ideas...

 

[ND1980LS]

dealer time...........

 

[KAHruzer]

The noise you heard was likely something in the drive mechanism breaking, not in the motor (since it still runs). Seeing the motor axle rotate without any action means whatever it connects to has broken/rounded out. It's something between the motor/crank and the "X" track gearing. Look for bent things, or a rod which has poped out of a hole.

See also: http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/LegendCoupe/62sg000/14-2.pdf

 

[lacaci]

If the motor works when you press the switch, then there might be one or two possible causes for the window not operating.

first I would check and tighten all the bolts that hold the window gear assembly. If you look hard enough you should be able to see a part that looks like a half moon with dents in it. what happens is that with time the bolts that hold it in place get loose causing this track to get misplaced or sometimes the track itself bends with age or the teeth get worn or broken. Try and see if you can help by (very carefully) pushing the track up as you actuate the motor. or simply pushing (or pulling) the glass up at the same time.

let me know if this helps

 

[ahawkins]

well i figured out that the half moon thing with the little teeth is off the track cuz....i kinda pulled it out, lol. well i put it where the little gear moves and moves the moon thing up and down, i just dont know where it attaches to move the window...its hard to see anything in there....anybody have diagrams/ideas?

 

[ahawkins]

Well it seems that the half moon thing is welded to another metal piece in three places....is there any places i can go that will fix it?

 

[lacaci]

it's all one piece that is held together by rollers at (i think) 3 points. It is also in itself if I remember correctly, the base to hold the glass. I do not think they repair those, but if you take out the speaker there should be a big hole on the metal through which you can take out this part

 

[littlelorib]

The noise you heard was likely something in the drive mechanism breaking, not in the motor (since it still runs). Seeing the motor axle rotate without any action means whatever it connects to has broken/rounded out. It's something between the motor/crank and the "X" track gearing. Look for bent things, or a rod which has poped out of a hole.

See also: http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/LegendCoupe/62sg000/14-2.pdf

How about if the back passangers side window doesn't roll down? I can hear the motor running but it just won't go down.... My car is only a 2 door, and the link above has instructions for a door, not the mini-window in the back seat.?
Can someone help please?

 

[KAHruzer]

A few pages after that in the manual has the rear quarter panel window info.

 

[WhtCastle]

I do not see a reasonable fix for this. I spent a while playing with it, but I do not see an obvious fix. It's getting close to raining season here too.......

 

[KAHruzer]

The manual describes the construction and window or motor replacement. You'll need to interpret for fixes.

As it happens, I ran into your posting only while searching for info on the subject myself since this morning I'm going to be tearing mine down.

Went to roll down the drivers' window last evening and hit the rear window button by mistake. It rolled down about 3-4" when I stopped and reversed. Heard a slight little "clink" and the window jambed partially open. No amount of coaxing would allow it to move more than a couple of inches either direction, though the motor ran.

I spent last evening studying those same pages. It appears the cable connection would be the issue in my case.

Anyway, the first steps are to remove the back bench seat bottom and the interior side panel. From there, it's going to be discovery day. Follow along if you wish. I'll post again later.

 

[KAHruzer]

O.K., got it all apart now.

Think I can safely say that if your window won't move but your motor runs, the problem is with the cable connections.

There's two nylon parts which affect this. One is the top end piece along the glide rail around which both loops of the to-fro cable go around. The second piece is in the vertical middle of the glide rail and attaches to both the glass and triangular glider which slides along the rail. It's at this middle piece where the two ends of the cable meet, but from opposite directions, one up, the down. So, when the window will move only one direction, it's that side of the cable end which has pulled loose. If both directions fail, while the motor still runs, then both ends have pulled loose.

I don't know wheather it's contributing or cause, but my top end piece had sheared in half through the pulley, spliting off one side face of the nylon piece. Together with this, the UP side cable had pulled loose of the middle piece.

By 'pulled loose', I mean broken through the hole which holds it. The nylon piece busted there. That piece also happens to be pressure fit with a bearing to the glider piece, making replacement all but impossible. It requires a new glider piece (the main triangular metal piece which bolts to the glass and glides on the rail). And, I doubt that piece is available by itself. More likely, the entire regulator is what's required.

The motor is nicely seperated from all this and attaches independently to the inside skin of the wall itself. Loosen two bolts, remove another and it comes out through the hole via sloted bolt holes.

I also have a relatively minor problem in my motor, I discovered. And, it could be what caused the entire problem (especially since this window is seldom used). The cable near the spool end had wrapped up over the edge of the spool and tended to drag the spool as it turned. Probably a condition which existed from manufacture. It didn't loop out, just a peak bend up over the edge. The tolerance between the spool and the surrounding housing is narrower than the cable thickness, so it drags.

Anyway, when the stresses get too large in any place, the entire system tends to self-destruct. How many pieces break and where is random.

 

[Mr. Bigs]

Window helpings

You have to take the entire window and regulator assembly out as one unit to repair your problem. Not that easy but not too hard either. Before doing so I recommend you make a trip to your local salvage yard and purchase the regulator- window assembly ( not the window, but what the window is attached to ). Pay close attention to what you are doing as trying to get the new window assembly back into its repective location can be a pain in the butt. I had the same problem a few months back. I went to a local salvage yard and pull the window regulator and assembly off of another Legend Coupe for a meer $20 and installed it myself. The same should go for the guy with the problem with his rear window. Peace and Blessings. Bigs out.

 

[KAHruzer]

The directions in the manual describe undoing the three bolts holding the glider/regulator to the glass, then pulling the regulator out the hole while leaving the glass in the UP position, held with tape. Then, the window can come out seperately. After having done it, I don't know that it could make it out as one assembly. But, seems you may have done it.