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Old 07-18-09, 03:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OMFG verY BAD!! help!!

i replaced the oil pan ran the car for 10 min it smoked like crazy, the cat is red hot and glowing , it stutters , pull each spark plug wire to check and all others made it stutter more except for 1 and 3 those 2 had no effect whatsoever when theyre pulled while the car is running someone help please. and it felt like there was no power at all when i gassed it to go from one stop at all it just felt like the car didnt wanna go

i use this car to go to school and home the car sat for 2 weeks till i had the pan on yesterday and ran it today.
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Those two cylinders are not firing for whatever reason. Non-firing cylinders send raw gas to the cat. Cat's don't like that.


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Old 07-18-09, 02:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've had one cylinder not firing and it ran really bad. Can't imagine two.
As bad as mine ran on one not, it'd make me wonder if it'd run at all without two.

Say, Doc, is that your plane? What is it?
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The plane is a "P" model Skymaster. I have a turbo "B" model. This belongs to a fellow "SOAP" member. It is the best skymaster photo I have. Rather amazing ship. Service ceiling of 33k.

2cool: Next thing to do is a compression test of the two offending cylinders. Sorry this is not going well for you. Is this the car that was stolen and recovered?

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Doc, that is a special plane.....military.
Usually outfitted with four pods for boom hardware and a gun turret somewhere,
when it wasn't used for targeting enemy (as a target) or dropping leaflets.

Had to look up "SOAP", Skymaster Owner's and Pilots club.

Guess you flew in 'Nam, huh?

I thought it kind of strange for it to have a 33k service ceiling as a civy.
What kind of speeds will it do? Didn't even recognise it as a twin at first.
I bet it does handle extremely well.
(do I need to start another thread for this?)

Interesting.

Cool, probably should check for spark on those two. My one bad cylinder resulted from a bad wire cap at the plug, arcing out the side to the head. Hard to discover.

Surely a wire problem, though. I predict.
Suppose the plugs could be bad, or gapped improperly.
I doubt the distributor would miss two like that, but if nothing else checks out, worth a look.
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+1 on the following. Excess gas is getting to the converter and likely it is a plug or two not firing. Also check the distributor cap and rotor.

Surely a wire problem, though. I predict.
Suppose the plugs could be bad, or gapped improperly.
I doubt the distributor would miss two like that, but if nothing else checks out, worth a look.
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Based on what I rememeber from earlier posts about this car it had some big incident. I would lean towards a compression check first. It would be unusual, however not impossible for this to be a sparkplug issue. If this is a compression issue it would halt further $ down the drain on the car.

As to the Skymaster, ours is a civilian version. The military variant was called the O-2. The O-2 was naturally aspirated. Our T-337B is the first year they turbocharged (turbonormalized) the Skymaster. It has a 33k service ceiling due to it's lighter weight and turbo.

The turbo-B model will make 233mph top speed at 20k. We have the optional 131 gallon tanks. That makes for a long cruise range of around 1600 miles. I was not a military pilot. I'm not THAT old. Also have a belly pod that holds 300 pounds of gear (or fish). You fly?

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Sorry Doc, presumed all to be retrofitted O-2's, wasn't aware of a civilian version at all.
And, also presumed them to be surplus-acquired, usually by those who flew them in their former life.

I don't fly, but my dad did. We covered the midwest in his Mooney.

I just saw the photo and knew it was special/different.
What year was this turbo version built?
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I've had one cylinder not firing and it ran really bad. Can't imagine two.
As bad as mine ran on one not, it'd make me wonder if it'd run at all without two.

Say, Doc, is that your plane? What is it?
off topic, but the car will run without 3 cylinders. i was replacing the valve cover gaskets, and i forgot to plug the rear bank of plug wires back in, and i couldnt figure out why it was running terribly. so i popped the hood, and the wires are sitting on the manifold.

stupid me.


anywho william, i told you my diagnosis
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Kzer:

The turbo push-pull was 67-69? Then again as the pressurized model in 80? Mooney is a fast bird. Don't worry about being off-topic everyone left for some other site. So, it's just us.

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The turbo push-pull was 67-69? Then again as the pressurized model in 80? Mooney is a fast bird. Don't worry about being off-topic everyone left for some other site. So, it's just us.

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LOL, yeah, guess it's getting quiet here. I've registered on the other site, but found it a bit rough running, so was waiting for things to smooth out some.

Somehow, missed the transition at first. Not sure where I was, or even why this happened. But, have noticed a huge change in the number/frequency of popups here and firewall challenges.

Pressurized, huh. Not sure I'd like to deal with all the extra hardware there.
Is Cessna still building these today?

Always wanted a Cessna 310, like Sky King's "SongBird", before the Beech StarShip I came around.
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You can buy an older 310 for nearly a song these days. Plan on $200/hr. to feed it. If you can pick one up for ~40k it would be not bad feeding it $200/hr for a hundred hours or so. Stretch that out for two years and sell. It would be great fun.

200mph and 19gph at part throttle. Big, heavy plane feel. They are rock solid.

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It's not as much the hourly costs as the ground expenses. I'd need a cab or rent a car at each stop so I could go places. What I need is a plane I can load my motorcycle onto.

....oh, and a pilot's license, twin/instrument rated.

OTOH, not may cops up there to pull you over.
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