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Old 05-28-05, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Timing Belt Help.....

lol these topics are all over the place.

But I'm doing my own timing belt, cars at 140 thousand and still has original...


Heres the situation, looking at engine from front of car.

When I turn the crankshaft so that the white mark lines with the lower cover mark, the left cam mark (red) is maybe one tooth past the yellow marking.

At this same point, the right cam mark is dead on the yellow.

Is this normal?.....(Cam nor the Crank have been moved since belt removed)


I figured is was, I went ahead and kept working and am down to the waterpump removal....I have all bolts out, but it looks like the wp is behind the right cam and right cam bracket. (the metal behind cam gear)

Does the Cam gear and the metal bracket peice need to be removed?



THNX FOR ALL HELP IN ADVANCE......Hopefully it all works out for me.
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Old 05-28-05, 11:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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right cam->
-pointer on the cover plate (yellow) line up with TDC(top dead center) red

Left cam->
-pointer on the cover plate (yello) line up with TDC Blue

drive pulley->
-pointer on da oil pumps lines up with key way mark on da pully.

when i was gettin my car done, mine skipped 2 teeth.
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I am looking at the engine from the front, standing in front of car.

So your right cam is my left and vice versa.

I only have a red mark on the left cam and two blue ones on the right. I think it is ok because nothing ever got turned with the belt has been off.

Just wondering if its normal to be past about 1 tooth.

and also about the water pump.

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I haven't done my own, so I can't help you there. But I would like to ask a favor while you have yours apart. Could you count the number of teeth on the crank sprocket that drives the belt for me? I would really appreciate it.

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will count them today for you, as soon as i get a chance.
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All Marks should be within 1/4 of a tooth......

There should not be much varience in the reference marks as compared to the markers on the camshafts with the crank set at TDC on compression stroke for cylinder 1. If there is a timing belt tooth off, you need to get that cam back on time. You will loose gas mileage and power. May even throw a code or two.
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Ok. How do I do that?

I figured it was alright because thats how it lined up, i never moved anything with belt off or never mad a mistake, so I went ahead.

If I put the new one on, pistons will not hit valves, correct?

thats the main thing I'm concerned about right now and I can fixthe timing later.




Ps. wp help too people.......

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24 teeth on crank.....


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Ok. How do I do that?

I figured it was alright because thats how it lined up, i never moved anything with belt off or never mad a mistake, so I went ahead.

If I put the new one on, pistons will not hit valves, correct?

thats the main thing I'm concerned about right now and I can fixthe timing later.




Ps. wp help too people.......

thnx
hand turn it like 10 times, if u feel resistance, STOP~! its hitting the valve.
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If i feel resistance....before I ever even took the belt off in the first place, there was resistance at certain points. So How is that possible, because my car ran fine.

I dont understand.........so if there is resistance, which there was....thats a problem?
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Hope these pictures help.


Crank Alignment (Notice the pulley key aligns with mark on block).


Right Cam


Left Cam
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thanks for the pics
im going to take pics of mine tomorrow and see if you can tell me if everything looks good
thanks again
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Actually, it appears that both of those pics are of the same cam (driver's side). Anyways, you get the general idea. You need to have the marks aligned when you put the belt on.
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What do I do to check to make sure that my engine is in time?

because if it can be lined up and still be wrong, correct?
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Thanks for checking for me. Good luck on your TB
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