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5spd clutch assembly. on my 6spd...

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#1 ·
im trying it out, using the lighter 5spd flywheel on my 6spd legend! the parts the shop were worried about working right seem to be ok now since they are the same part numbers as the 5spd.... if this works it will mean we(the 6spd owners) will be able to use the lighter faster reving 5spd flywheel and stronger overall clutch with our tranny's... i just hope it all works
 
#27 ·
khooz : what part of fl. do you live in. i saw a car just like your out back the apartments im looking to go at for school in miami.
 
#29 ·
Dave C ver2.0 said:
2 words: Torsional Vibration
Then wouldn't a Type-I crank-pulley do the trick to create a harmonic balance?
 
#35 ·
So no excessive vibration with the 5spd flywheel on the 6spd? How about engagement and all around smoothness when driving?

I agree that acura chos the dual mass because the legend is a luxury car with sporty attributes, but would they also have chosen it to protect the tranny from excessive vibration damage? (i wonder if its like the miata 6 speeds, sensitive to excessive abuse)

Lets hear how things are going for you!
 
#36 ·
A-P Legend said:
So no excessive vibration with the 5spd flywheel on the 6spd? How about engagement and all around smoothness when driving?

I agree that acura chos the dual mass because the legend is a luxury car with sporty attributes, but would they also have chosen it to protect the tranny from excessive vibration damage? (i wonder if its like the miata 6 speeds, sensitive to excessive abuse)

Lets hear how things are going for you!
i dont notice any wierd vibrations, idles a lil high still cant seem to adjust it so it idles right (about 1k) but it is as smooth as a 5spd legend, i think its smoother than the 6spd. clutch ass., i still need to go to the track i haven't had very many days off from work to get to the track. (and need to get better tires before i go). i am really interested when DV8 gets his setup in.

edit: who is going to be the first to try a nsx lightweight flywheel?
 
#40 ·
badintentions said:
all i can say right now, is that you need to get 5spd flywheel bolts becuase the 6spd bolts are way to long... the difference in the thickness of the 2 flywheel is about a 3/4" but that is the only parts you will need to get that i know of so far
This is where i am now, totaly forgot about the damn bolts. calling Acura shortly to get me some 5spd bolts, are they longer than the AT bolts anyone know? Hope they have it in stock i want to mate the trans together this weekend.

~TRu Hybrid
 
#41 ·
check out the video section, i have a couple vids there, a few revs and a 1-3 pull.
 
#42 ·
Hello! Maybe this thread should be stickied to the top of the forum? Or at least added to the "Every Mod" thread: http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=38087

Anyway, I just sent off an email to Comptech to ask about the Cl Type S flywheel kit that they offer. Here is the email, (I will update with the reply later on):

kotetu said:
I'm trying to determine if the CL type S 6 speed flywheel can be used in a 1995 Legend L coupe 6 speed. A little background: the Legend 6 speed comes with a specialized (dual mass) flywheel, but is compatible with the lighter 5 speed model (if used with the 5 speed clutch assembly and 5 speed flywheel screws). (please see this user forum for details - http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60202&page=1&pp=15&highlight=flywheel )

Now the question has come up, can a lightened CL type S flywheel be used in place of the heavier Legend 5 speed flywheel? So, since you guys at comptech are professional tech guys, I thought you might be able to help me verify whether the bolt positions and dimensions of the two flywheels are compatible or not. (The CL type S that you produce, and the 1994 Legend 5 Speed flywheel.)
I'm looking forward to my '94 L coupe (6spd) purchase in the next few days. Cheers!

Aaron
 
#43 ·
kotetu said:
Hello! Maybe this thread should be stickied to the top of the forum? Or at least added to the "Every Mod" thread: http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=38087

Anyway, I just sent off an email to Comptech to ask about the Cl Type S flywheel kit that they offer. Here is the email, (I will update with the reply later on):

I'm looking forward to my '94 L coupe (6spd) purchase in the next few days. Cheers!

Aaron
I already did all the research on this, its the last few pages: http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=35629

I actually went there with both flywheels and the shop manager and i found the 5spd flywheel was the closest, but there was no guarantee that it would work. i gave it an 80% chance. for the amount of money involved it wasnt worth it.

~TRu Hybrid
 
#44 ·
I'm just trying to fully understand this 'cause I'm doing a 6-speed conversion in January. I was set to get a 5-speed flywheel to use with the 6-speed trani for obvious reasons. As far as I understood the 6-speed clutch (SPEC Stage III) could still be used with the lighter 5-speed flywheel. So now in this thread it was said that you would need a 5-speed clutch in order to use it.

Question 1: Can I just order a Spec Stage III 5-speed clutch and it will work with my 6-speed trani?

Question 2: What exactly is the advantage of using the 5-speed clutch assembly? Is it just the price (lower cost)?
 
#45 ·
hotlavaflow said:
I'm just trying to fully understand this 'cause I'm doing a 6-speed conversion in January. I was set to get a 5-speed flywheel to use with the 6-speed trani for obvious reasons. As far as I understood the 6-speed clutch (SPEC Stage III) could still be used with the lighter 5-speed flywheel. So now in this thread it was said that you would need a 5-speed clutch in order to use it.

Question 1: Can I just order a Spec Stage III 5-speed clutch and it will work with my 6-speed trani?

Question 2: What exactly is the advantage of using the 5-speed clutch assembly? Is it just the price (lower cost)?
the 6spd clutch will not work on the 5spd flywheel.
 
#46 ·
hotlavaflow said:
I'm just trying to fully understand this 'cause I'm doing a 6-speed conversion in January. I was set to get a 5-speed flywheel to use with the 6-speed trani for obvious reasons. As far as I understood the 6-speed clutch (SPEC Stage III) could still be used with the lighter 5-speed flywheel. So now in this thread it was said that you would need a 5-speed clutch in order to use it.

Question 1: Can I just order a Spec Stage III 5-speed clutch and it will work with my 6-speed trani?

Question 2: What exactly is the advantage of using the 5-speed clutch assembly? Is it just the price (lower cost)?
6spd clutch and flywheel is unsprung while the 5spd set is sprung. the whole purpose to this change is to get lighter and be more aggressive revs, not to mention more power to the diff.

buy a 5spd flywheel, flywheel bolts and spec(whatever stage) clutch kit. swaps right on a 6spd trans

~TRu Hybrid
 
#48 ·
no need for a new starter or axles or anything like that, just flywheels and clutch ass.
 
#49 · (Edited)
Thanks, I can't wait to get this project done.

How much did you end up spending on the flywheel itself? I have everything except the flywheel and 6-spd tranni now.
Here's my list am I missing anything?

6-spd Trans w/clutch fork
Flywheel and clutch set w/bolts(5 spd)
Pedal assembly
clutch master cylinder
slave cylinder
clutch damper and fluid reservoir
clutch hydraulic lines-hard lines and rubber flex hose
man. trans ecu
shift linkage/shifter assembly
manual trans gauge cluster
custom rear trans mount (modified or use a bunch of washers
 
#50 ·
One more thing. About the ECU what are the options? I have a Type I motor. Can I still use the Type II 6-speed ECU? I know with the 5-speed it works but there is no reverse lock-out.

Oh, and does Willie chip 6-spd ecu's? I'll probably just get a 5 for now I see them for $75.
 
#51 ·
i got my flywheel for 30$ from my old car. and Willie is the only one that chips 6 spd ecu's. and im pretty sure you can use the typeII 6spd ecu with your setup.