im trying it out, using the lighter 5spd flywheel on my 6spd legend! the parts the shop were worried about working right seem to be ok now since they are the same part numbers as the 5spd.... if this works it will mean we(the 6spd owners) will be able to use the lighter faster reving 5spd flywheel and stronger overall clutch with our tranny's... i just hope it all works
5spd clutch assembly. on my 6spd...
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high end
I like the way my car feels off the line and I love the high end power will I gain or lose high end power with a 5 spd setup in my 6spd type II. I under stand it is lighter making you move faster off the line but how about at high end speed.
I like the way my car feels off the line and I love the high end power will I gain or lose high end power with a 5 spd setup in my 6spd type II. I under stand it is lighter making you move faster off the line but how about at high end speed.
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you wont notice much of a difference up top.
chatter
I watched a video and from what I understand chatter is when the clutch grips slips grips slips. http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf
does anyone with a 5 spd setup in their 6spd have this problem.
where did you get your 5 spd flywheel and did you have it surfaced, how and where.
I watched a video and from what I understand chatter is when the clutch grips slips grips slips. http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf
does anyone with a 5 spd setup in their 6spd have this problem.
where did you get your 5 spd flywheel and did you have it surfaced, how and where.
i used to get clutch chatter or shudder - the entire car would shudder. Thanks for this video it helps me a little because the dealer insisted there was nothing wrong and I just lived with it. It only happened sometimes and during cold spells. I just figured it was nature of the beast. But somewhere along the way it quit doing it. So perhaps the clutch is finally broken in - when the car was still fairly young perhaps the clutch actually had too much bite.
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The guy from streetfire irritates me. A nerd become auto enthusiast. Its one or the other. With all due respect to any nerds on these here forums. Good general video however.
~Dv8
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I know this is an ooooooold post, but I think you meant Vtec flywheel bolts and DOHC clutch bolts.
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No i have not experienced this. i got my flywheel from my 94 l sedan 5spd, and i had it resurfaced by a local transmission shop for $35.
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junk yards. PM me i might have some things you are looking for. and i live in kendal
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Yes, I'm aware this is an old thread...
Dad's apt to go the 5MT flywheel and clutch route in his upcoming clutch replacement but I have questions, particularly for badintentions but if anyone else has commentary, please chime in. Please note, this is a daily driver with no modification other than an SRI. I don't imagine lack of power would create an issue with the appropriate choice of clutch but driveability is a very significant factor in this decision: I don't imagine it can suffer much before Dad finds it unpleasant.
Badintentions: did your idle "issue" ever settle out? Did anyone else have this issue?
Nobody is experiencing clutch chatter problems with this setup?
How're everyones' setups holding up?
Any other issues I should be aware of?
Dad's apt to go the 5MT flywheel and clutch route in his upcoming clutch replacement but I have questions, particularly for badintentions but if anyone else has commentary, please chime in. Please note, this is a daily driver with no modification other than an SRI. I don't imagine lack of power would create an issue with the appropriate choice of clutch but driveability is a very significant factor in this decision: I don't imagine it can suffer much before Dad finds it unpleasant.
Badintentions: did your idle "issue" ever settle out? Did anyone else have this issue?
Nobody is experiencing clutch chatter problems with this setup?
How're everyones' setups holding up?
Any other issues I should be aware of?
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My car felt just like my 5spd legend, so daily driving should not be a problem. i dont remember having idle issues? still to this day the clutch feels great.
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The dual-mass 6MT flywheel tends toward a smoother shifting thus comfort (though, badintentions post about the 5MT setup being smoother sort of violates that logic).
Otherwise, I can't say I see much reason at all. I can't say I see any disadvantages to the swap so far unless the 6MT is really a great deal smoother then the 5MT and badintentions just noticed the smoothness of a new clutch more then anything else
Otherwise, I can't say I see much reason at all. I can't say I see any disadvantages to the swap so far unless the 6MT is really a great deal smoother then the 5MT and badintentions just noticed the smoothness of a new clutch more then anything else
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Mines rock solid still with abuse galore. My dual mass snapped through 1/8 of the abuse my 5sp flywheel has gone through to date, and yet needs to be rebuilt.
The 5spd flywheel swap from dual mass should be considered a performance upgrade and nothing more. If you dont want better throttle response and the ability to launch at high RPM with slightly less engagement comfort, then stick with the dual mass. It will ultimately be more of a comfort setup for you pussies.... j/k
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Dad's finally getting serious about this project for his 6MT so I've started talking to my shops.
One thing that my mechanic was a bit worried about was that if the listings from our local parts supplier are correct, the 5MT flywheel has a 2mm smaller outer diameter (as I understand, no big deal because we'd be using the 5MT flywheel, pressure plate, etc.) and a 1/32" larger inner diameter (this is what bugged my mechanic.) I understand that 1/32" is tiny and that (if the listings are accurate) it is larger than the 6MT flywheel so it won't have trouble fitting around the transmission's input shaft, but I want to know if this is an error in the listing system or if there's a difference in clearance or what... I have trouble believing the input shafts are different and these listings are shoddy at best most of the time but I was wondering if Dv8 or someone else had some comments on it?
Obviously it hasn't been a problem for you guys and the long term durability has been ok (though, Dad's car is now on a 14 year old clutch so 4 years at longest is nothin...) I'm just trying to get more information so my answer to my old man and long time mechanic isn't "people on the internet say it works."
One thing that my mechanic was a bit worried about was that if the listings from our local parts supplier are correct, the 5MT flywheel has a 2mm smaller outer diameter (as I understand, no big deal because we'd be using the 5MT flywheel, pressure plate, etc.) and a 1/32" larger inner diameter (this is what bugged my mechanic.) I understand that 1/32" is tiny and that (if the listings are accurate) it is larger than the 6MT flywheel so it won't have trouble fitting around the transmission's input shaft, but I want to know if this is an error in the listing system or if there's a difference in clearance or what... I have trouble believing the input shafts are different and these listings are shoddy at best most of the time but I was wondering if Dv8 or someone else had some comments on it?
Obviously it hasn't been a problem for you guys and the long term durability has been ok (though, Dad's car is now on a 14 year old clutch so 4 years at longest is nothin...) I'm just trying to get more information so my answer to my old man and long time mechanic isn't "people on the internet say it works."
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Due to the reliability of this setup, you and your dad should not worry. My car has i believe the most milage on this setup and Dv8 tests it for abuse. If there were a problem with this setup one of us would have found it.
I do not believe what DV8 said, this should be a option for all 6spd owners for performance or not. Ever drive a 5 spd legend? thats exactly how it feels.
PS: i wish i could buy my legend back...Lexus just is not cutting it for me
I do not believe what DV8 said, this should be a option for all 6spd owners for performance or not. Ever drive a 5 spd legend? thats exactly how it feels.
PS: i wish i could buy my legend back...Lexus just is not cutting it for me
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Unfortunately, I have never driven a 5MT Legend and the only one my Dad has ever driven, at this point, we suspect was not well maintained: there was a terribly shimmy in the front end and the clutch feel was awful: poor engagement and everything. I remember being along for the test drive when I was little kid and being rather confused by the amount of difficulty Dad was having driving it (he's one of those people that can drive damn near anything.)
I just spoke to SPEC about the difference in size (MAD props for their customer service department BTW: I asked a question at like 630am this morning and it's 920am and I've already exchanged 3 emails with them and resolved my question) and there is none: both their kits use a 1 1/32" inner diameter. That's enough reassurance for me and I think it'll be enough for Dad to pull the trigger.
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