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Lusting for a twin turbo setup, and would like (helpful) ideas

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#1 · (Edited)
First I apologize for the serious teaser and putting up pics of a project without results and dyno's because there are none. And who knows how long it could be before I go any further it could be a year or more! I just love hearing the ideas suggestions, feedback and knowlege you all have to offer. Isn't that a bulk of what we are here for? :) Well as many of you know I am currently underway with the Supercharger setup. It has been a very slow process but is still underway and the manifold for it is now being welded from what I understand.

I could not get over how much I loved Hotlava's tt setup and it overcame me. So I figured at some point in the future I also wanted to do a tt setup and began slowly buying the additional pieces it would take to do so (being that many are the same, such as injectors, fuel pump monitoring gauges and what not). Then last week my car decide to get some garage time (it broke down later found to be a broken axle, Ebay? I think it was tsk tsk). But none the less it was a perfect excuse to play while she was down so I started to look at how I would eventually want my tt to be setup. What better way than to play. It helps kill concepts that look good in your head given the (not so) workable space; a few of my ideas have since died. But long story short this is where I am at so far. Now that my wife knows that it is just a broken axle I only have shipping time to continue playing before having to put her back together again.

A couple quick notes

-No this will not be done/completed for a very very long time.-This is very new to me so I would be the last to ask for suggestions though I love to share ideas.
-Yes the supercharger project is still underway and taking precedence over this.

-No I did not wake up one morning and say I am going to do a Legend Twin turbo setup during breakfast (sorry Hybird, that just kills me lol)
-No I am not going to be using PVC intercooler piping it is just cheaper to hack away at till I figure how I am going to do it when the time comes.
-I have also read up on some articles of Twin vs. Single and each seem to have there advantages from knowlegable members of their respective forums.
-cheap clamps will be replaced with t-clamps.

Ok the book is done here's the pics. (excuse the mess my garage is at war)
also please forgive the ugly "stand in" mesh and terrible paint, looks will come last. I don't want to tear it up after doing body work and paint.
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This one concerns me, there is not much rook and there is a damn brake fluid line that may need to be relocated. wires and hoses I don't mind moving brake, AC, and power steering lines I am not so happy/experinced with.
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Hopefully at some point I will be done destroying my car and be able to build it up like the one in my head lol.

-Tip- If you get a new intercooler or radiator, cover the fins with cardboard until it is fully installed so you don't damage the fins during installation :hide:

PS. The purple finish and and nice shiney engine bay will be back in time. it was too hard to maintain and not scratch to hell while getting a bug of some sort and doing stuff like ^ this. I think eventually I will powdercoat vs. paint though.
 
#674 ·
Mmm yes this is partially my fear and I have seen similar info on threads like homemadeturbo.com ahhh what to do :dunno:
 
#675 ·
Well not much to talk about today, I will try to make some progress this weekend my goal will be to port out the intake manifold, get the electrical hooked up and complete the wiring. Ran Ran picked up the turbos tonight so they are off to be rebuilt :D.
 
#677 ·
I would love to see you and more all together attempting a turbo setup when you get going let me know.
 
#679 ·
Nope, you may wanna read through this whole thread.

Well I decided that I am going to push forward and do this right the first time, so instead of buying a cheap rebuild kit and using these turbos till I save up enough for another set, I am going to go ahead and have the T3's converted to T3/T4's with a compressor side of about AR.63. My brother in laws friend had worked for Detroit Desiel as a turbo rebuilder for over 20 years and will be heading this up for me. I am pretty excited about this as they will be professionally rebuilt with all genuine garrett parts that will now include Garrett T4 compressor blades and housings and all new parts and internals.
 
#681 ·
Well I am atleast another few weeks out now that I have decided to go this route :( but it will be worth the wait once it is done. The cost of this build has gone far beyond my expectations (kinda, as I did it to myself). But I figure if I have an end goal in mind I better go in the right direction to get there.
 
#682 · (Edited)
(singthis) One of these solenoids doesn't look like the others, can you guess which one it is before my song is done.
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Now of course it is not going in its stock location :)
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Ok I started on the wiring for the electronics (Blitz SBC boost controller, Blitz Turbo Timer, and Prosport gauges) and had run into a issue of curiosity as to where to place the boost controller solenoid. After a lot of searching in dissatisfaction I came to the conclusion of, why not put it with the other two are, (TII inake manifold only uses two but has a place for three). So I did and I will also use the TI's connector (has wiring for all three) so I can maintain a clean look. And it just so happened that the drivers side signal light connector plugs right into the Blitz SBC solenoid, score!

Here is another (component testing) teaser of the gauges (less the NEO).
The shiney area to the left of the SBC is a light reflection.
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EDITED on 12/05/08

But wait Telion, I used the TII solenid connector and the two outer pins are on teh wrong side?
The pins need to be swapped to the other side of the inner pins so that they go to the correct solenoids.
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I really like the look of that telion, really clean but IDK as far as functionallity, they are placed too low to view while driving in my opinion.

this may not be quite the question to ask at this time but how do you pronounce your screen name?

is it like "Te-leon" or "Telly-on"?
 
#684 · (Edited)
I am going to guess that you are referring to teh boost controller and the turbo timer? Initially I thought so too but then after thinking about the functions they perform once they are set they really don't need to be under close watch and they each have warning indicators that turn the backlight red if there is an issue detected. The other gauges are'nt too bad in my opinion and is quite a common location for anyone not wanting gauge pods. I did consider swapping there location with the stock vents in the dash but the width of teh dash would not accomodate the gauges and there would have to be a lot more work. I also considered placeing them above the stereo but it is a flip up that will also display about 6 readings from teh wideband when necessary or at the track.

LOL that's funny; I just had a screen name discussion with ymisoqt about her SN :) but it is Tay-leon.
 
#686 ·
I wanna get the other electrical done so I can see it with the stereo flipped up, and the NEO inplace and on.

(This is the control tower, you are clear for take off :D)
 
#688 ·
Not mine but the color scheme coincides with what I want in my engine bay so I am throwing it in here as a reminder

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#689 ·
That'll look perfect in your engine bay. Are you gonna upgrade the intake/exhaust springs on the heads? They gotta be stiffer for turbos correct?
 
#691 ·
I already have when I went to the TII springs I think they will be fine for a while.
 
#693 ·
Yes this build is going a little slow (very slow) for the last month. But there were some time consuming issues. The turbos needed to be rebuilt and it turns out it was good that I did decide to have this done because one of the CHRA shafts were warped and teh other had a tiny crack in the turbine housing. I should have them back by this time next week though.

I also decided to go with the flexicool corrugated stainess steel radiator hose. I figure this way I am not limited to a particular path to get from point a to point b and I can bend it to teh deesired shape then later, if I decide to I can know the exact form I need to create and do it with piping and silicone couplers.

Since this is also somewhat of my ideas as I go I am going to include my engine bay color scheme motiation and on a side not (this R33 is BAD ASS!)
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From Modified mag
 
#694 ·
I also decided to go with the flexicool corrugated stainess steel radiator hose. I figure this way I am not limited to a particular path to get from point a to point b and I can bend it to teh deesired shape then later, if I decide to I can know the exact form I need to create and do it with piping and silicone couplers.
I bought one 48in. hose kit and another 36in. That should give you enough length to go around whatever you need. One 48in. kit isnt going to be long enough.
:)

~Dv8
 
#695 ·
Much appreciated :) I better grab a 36" or 24" kit.
 
#696 ·
Ok things still going slow, should have the turbos this week, and out of my knowing that I would have pure lack of desire to put that big bulky fuel filter back I decided to go with a Trick flow inline fuel filter. It just wouldn't make sense not to.
 
#700 ·
Ok I could't wait to see the look of the upper radiator hose installed with the hose clamps and I must say I am very satisfied. Excuse the mess, she's still under construction.
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#702 ·
Damn, that hose looks good on your car.
 
#703 ·
Thanks guys, I bought the clamps seperate and teh hose was thought to be spectra but turned out to be goodyear (no complaints here). I bought a 16" universal size and cut it down to the needed size. It does look as sexy as I imagined it too mmmm.
 
#704 ·
Hell ya it does, especially with the little hose running along side of the radiator, they match pretty good. Waiting patiently when you get your turbos in!!
 
#705 ·
yeah... those are good for light colored imports... but i'm not fond of how they look on darker colors.. and i've tried em on a muscle car.. they look like crap compared to just a regular new black hose. but on there it looks good. and this is comin from a guy that restores engine bays and tweeks em to look as good as possible. ;]

i'm a big fan of minimalisation on bays.. make everything look as clean as possible... is why i like hotrods so much... the bays look immaculate when you do em right.

post a pic of the bay as is... i'm interested now. lol