is there such thing as a real electric supercharger? not those stupid ebay ones....
real electric supercharger?
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nope
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can you post a DIY Ric?
I was thinking of my shop vac vs. a leaf blower
I was thinking of my shop vac vs. a leaf blowerI have yet to call B.S. on this one:
http://www.boosthead.com/home.php
Have read some interesting articles about this dude.
http://www.boosthead.com/home.php
Have read some interesting articles about this dude.
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Yeah, that's neat, but why? lol
It'll just put more strain on your electrical system, especially if you've already got an audio system or underdrive pulleys. And for that price, it seems like a good ol' fashioned supercharger kit or a turbo would deliver the most bang for the buck.
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That's only a few minutes of boost a day.
The 10-15 second bursts you can use it in make it totally useless for anything but drag racing. Might as well just use a bigger shot of nitrous imo.
It'll just put more strain on your electrical system, especially if you've already got an audio system or underdrive pulleys. And for that price, it seems like a good ol' fashioned supercharger kit or a turbo would deliver the most bang for the buck.
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That's only a few minutes of boost a day.The 10-15 second bursts you can use it in make it totally useless for anything but drag racing. Might as well just use a bigger shot of nitrous imo.
I agree. I was gonna try to come up with an electric supercharger that was a little bit more practical but haven't had the time or funding. With all of the bruhless motor technology out there now there has to be a way to do it. I was gonna go with a Rotrex supercharger unit but they are over $1000 a piece. Still want to do it one day though but have to get some money rolling in first. Would love to super charge the legend.firelizard said:Yeah, that's neat, but why? lol
It'll just put more strain on your electrical system, especially if you've already got an audio system or underdrive pulleys. And for that price, it seems like a good ol' fashioned supercharger kit or a turbo would deliver the most bang for the buck.
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The 10-15 second bursts you can use it in make it totally useless for anything but drag racing. Might as well just use a bigger shot of nitrous imo.
it would only make sense if it were something that worked like an actual crank driven supercharger that is always on. This one seems more like electric NOS which we all know can never be used for more than a short burst or your motor melts down. If it could be used on demand for as long as needed then it would make sense.chuckee98 said:
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Kinda like the old saying....guns dont kill people...disgruntled postal workers do.....
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I thought it was " husbands who come home early do " ....
you misunderstood what I said. I was referring to NOS not superchargers. The electric one I was referring to works like nitrous for 15 second burst.RICDOGG said:
I know my history on superchargers and yes they were used in the WW2 aircraft like the P-38, P-51 and many others as well. But what I bet you don't know is that they used to use alcohol/water injection for a boost in power. Kind of like they use NOS now but the motors would need a major overhaul after they used it for long periods of time. Kind of like the way NOS kills motors today. Yes it does work if done right but I have seen pistons from cars that had nitrous done "the right way". Not good for the motor no matter how you use it.
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Americans were the only Allied power to use turbosuperchargers. Britain and Germany used only mechanical superchargers in their production aircraft.
P-38, P-47, B-17 and B-24 used GE turbos. All other production craft used mechanical superchargers. Spitfire and Mustang got their high-altitude goodness from two-stage, two-speed, intercooled superchargers. B-29 used turbo-compounded R-3360s.
Germany was exclusive user of nitrous boost, Allies used methanol/water.
P-38, P-47, B-17 and B-24 used GE turbos. All other production craft used mechanical superchargers. Spitfire and Mustang got their high-altitude goodness from two-stage, two-speed, intercooled superchargers. B-29 used turbo-compounded R-3360s.
Germany was exclusive user of nitrous boost, Allies used methanol/water.
I am working on one as we speak that will work if all goes well
this is a little different than anything out there. when I get it working I will get you all posted on what is working like. It uses a high amp motor that is rated to run continuously for long periods of time and really moves lots of air but I need to see whether it will compress air. The only unit I have found that can do what I need but it is on a 24 volt system. If it works it will be a huge break through hopefully and I will offer it to everyone here first.
this is a little different than anything out there. when I get it working I will get you all posted on what is working like. It uses a high amp motor that is rated to run continuously for long periods of time and really moves lots of air but I need to see whether it will compress air. The only unit I have found that can do what I need but it is on a 24 volt system. If it works it will be a huge break through hopefully and I will offer it to everyone here first.
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i dont know too much about supercharges or turbos so don't flame me if im wrong about everything im saying but don't superchargers and turbos need regulation according to engine speed?
like a turbo pushes air depending on how fast exhaust is comming out
and a supercharger puts out depending how fast the drive belt is moving, at idle a supercharger still pushes more air than needed and results in the unstable growl.
a electric turbo/supercharger wouldnt be regulated at all and would be the same psi constantly, unless your alternator was going bad and high rpms cranked cranked more power...
so basically what i'm saying is if the thing put out decent airflow the car would be getting the same flow at idle as it would at highend and it would be pressing air past the throttle plate making rpms race. if the car did idle still it would mean its not pushing much as all it wouldnt be offering anything for for highend so whats the point?
Plus the fact that im assuming the turbine is lightweight plastic so it wouldnt have any torque to the fan, so very low pressure. I know they make light weight turbines for real turbos to help out with the low end loss while still improving highend but were talking about a 2 ounce piece of plastic!
These turbos arent made for cars either, they are just somthing some one found in a hardware store or somthing, i bet the fan blades are made of crappy plastic and when you do take your car to high end the engine suction its self will spin the fan faster than its designed for making it break to pieces and flying straight into your engine.
i doubt they are designed to handle heat under the hood either.
but then again, i dont know much if anything about forced air induction so this is just off the top of my head...
I'm pretty sure if these things worked you would be hearing about it everywhere because those civc ricer kids would have got the word out by now, i'm sure they are they make up most of the people buying these things.
like a turbo pushes air depending on how fast exhaust is comming out
and a supercharger puts out depending how fast the drive belt is moving, at idle a supercharger still pushes more air than needed and results in the unstable growl.
a electric turbo/supercharger wouldnt be regulated at all and would be the same psi constantly, unless your alternator was going bad and high rpms cranked cranked more power...
so basically what i'm saying is if the thing put out decent airflow the car would be getting the same flow at idle as it would at highend and it would be pressing air past the throttle plate making rpms race. if the car did idle still it would mean its not pushing much as all it wouldnt be offering anything for for highend so whats the point?
Plus the fact that im assuming the turbine is lightweight plastic so it wouldnt have any torque to the fan, so very low pressure. I know they make light weight turbines for real turbos to help out with the low end loss while still improving highend but were talking about a 2 ounce piece of plastic!
These turbos arent made for cars either, they are just somthing some one found in a hardware store or somthing, i bet the fan blades are made of crappy plastic and when you do take your car to high end the engine suction its self will spin the fan faster than its designed for making it break to pieces and flying straight into your engine.
i doubt they are designed to handle heat under the hood either.
but then again, i dont know much if anything about forced air induction so this is just off the top of my head...
I'm pretty sure if these things worked you would be hearing about it everywhere because those civc ricer kids would have got the word out by now, i'm sure they are they make up most of the people buying these things.
most of things you describe can be fixedcigarettcancerman said:
-Plastic fan blades: get metal ones
-shrappnel in engine
ut the blower before the filter or chicken wire after the blower-low and high speed no good: have a switch to turn it on when you want
i believe the electric supercharger COULD work but no one wants to take the time/money to do it when you could just get NOS. plus it would look like a ricer thing or like sh it
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Change "engine speed" to "engine load" and you're spot on.
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