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Lusting for a twin turbo setup, and would like (helpful) ideas

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#1 · (Edited)
First I apologize for the serious teaser and putting up pics of a project without results and dyno's because there are none. And who knows how long it could be before I go any further it could be a year or more! I just love hearing the ideas suggestions, feedback and knowlege you all have to offer. Isn't that a bulk of what we are here for? :) Well as many of you know I am currently underway with the Supercharger setup. It has been a very slow process but is still underway and the manifold for it is now being welded from what I understand.

I could not get over how much I loved Hotlava's tt setup and it overcame me. So I figured at some point in the future I also wanted to do a tt setup and began slowly buying the additional pieces it would take to do so (being that many are the same, such as injectors, fuel pump monitoring gauges and what not). Then last week my car decide to get some garage time (it broke down later found to be a broken axle, Ebay? I think it was tsk tsk). But none the less it was a perfect excuse to play while she was down so I started to look at how I would eventually want my tt to be setup. What better way than to play. It helps kill concepts that look good in your head given the (not so) workable space; a few of my ideas have since died. But long story short this is where I am at so far. Now that my wife knows that it is just a broken axle I only have shipping time to continue playing before having to put her back together again.

A couple quick notes

-No this will not be done/completed for a very very long time.-This is very new to me so I would be the last to ask for suggestions though I love to share ideas.
-Yes the supercharger project is still underway and taking precedence over this.

-No I did not wake up one morning and say I am going to do a Legend Twin turbo setup during breakfast (sorry Hybird, that just kills me lol)
-No I am not going to be using PVC intercooler piping it is just cheaper to hack away at till I figure how I am going to do it when the time comes.
-I have also read up on some articles of Twin vs. Single and each seem to have there advantages from knowlegable members of their respective forums.
-cheap clamps will be replaced with t-clamps.

Ok the book is done here's the pics. (excuse the mess my garage is at war)
also please forgive the ugly "stand in" mesh and terrible paint, looks will come last. I don't want to tear it up after doing body work and paint.
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This one concerns me, there is not much rook and there is a damn brake fluid line that may need to be relocated. wires and hoses I don't mind moving brake, AC, and power steering lines I am not so happy/experinced with.
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Hopefully at some point I will be done destroying my car and be able to build it up like the one in my head lol.

-Tip- If you get a new intercooler or radiator, cover the fins with cardboard until it is fully installed so you don't damage the fins during installation :hide:

PS. The purple finish and and nice shiney engine bay will be back in time. it was too hard to maintain and not scratch to hell while getting a bug of some sort and doing stuff like ^ this. I think eventually I will powdercoat vs. paint though.
 
#544 ·
i know your not dealin with a civic but when i had my civic and was planiing on making it turbo i read that i should you the gm 3bar map sensor now i dont know if it will work with the legends since the motor is way bigger but hey thats why we got trial and error MAP Sensor, GM, Bosch-Style, 3-Bar, Stock-Style just copy n paste on ebay search
 
#552 ·
I have not rules this out but I have to read up on it more. I have just skimmed through it as of yet.
 
#546 ·
What the heck is up with all the threadjacking?! Has jetdoc even posted in this thread ever?!

To answer the questions though, yes you must take the cams out to get them pressure tested. For six speed trannies the best and most common swap is the 6 speed from late 90s z28 camaros.
 
#549 · (Edited)
Ok all this recent tubo and SC excitement got me to go a little crazy on the couple steps of my car, well one step atleast. the drain and feed lines. I spent 175.00 on this alone :( when at first I was going to go the home depot route lol, so much for that idea but none the less here's the list

Copper Gasket for T3 T3/T4 Inlet manifold turbo flange x2
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T3 T3/T4 Turbo Aluminum Oil Drain 10 AN Size Adapter x2
(oops, the drain lines are -8AN not 10 I have to fix that)
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Goodridge 1136-9004 An-4 90 deg.Swivel Reusable fitting x2
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Goodridge AN-4 straight Reusable Hose End x2
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29" Goodridge 710 An-8 drain hose w/ 45 degree swivel and 90 degree swivel hose ends x2
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5 feet of AN-4 Stainless Steel braided hose.
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some info I found on their site
710 Hose: This exclusive Goodridge development has changed the perception of traditional fluid transfer hoses, worldwide. Constructed of a convoluted PTFE inner tube with a carbon impregnated static dissipation liner (impervious to virtually all chemicals) and covered with the industry's only source of black Aramid Fibre.

Application: Fuel, Oil, Water, Methanol, Air
Temperature Range: -45oC to +170oC
Material: Anti-Static Convoluted PTFE bore, Aramid fibre braid

200 SS Hose:
Application: Fuel, Oil, Coolants, Methanol, Water.
Temperature Range: -46oC to +150oC

Unrelated to the oil lines but related to the project I picked up a
BLITZ DUAL-SBC Spec S boost controller.
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Possibly a little bit overkill but I hope to grow into it all
 
#550 ·
Ok all this recent tubo and SC excitement got me to go a little crazy on the couple steps of my car, well one step atleast. the drain and feed lines. I spent 175.00 on this alone :( when at first I was going to go the home depot route lol, so much for that idea but none the less here's the list

Copper Gasket for T3 T3/T4 Inlet manifold turbo flange x2
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T3 T3/T4 Turbo Aluminum Oil Drain 10 AN Size Adapter x2

(oops, the drain lines are -8AN not 10 I have to fix that)
Goodridge 1136-9004 An-4 90 deg.Swivel Reusable fitting x2
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Goodridge AN-4 straight Reusable Hose End x2
29" Goodridge 710 An-8 drain hose w/ 45 degree swivel and 90 degree swivel hose ends x2
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5 feet of AN-4 Stainless Steel braided hose.
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some info I found on their site
710 Hose: This exclusive Goodridge development has changed the perception of traditional fluid transfer hoses, worldwide. Constructed of a convoluted PTFE inner tube with a carbon impregnated static dissipation liner (impervious to virtually all chemicals) and covered with the industry's only source of black Aramid Fibre.

Application: Fuel, Oil, Water, Methanol, Air
Temperature Range: -45oC to +170oC
Material: Anti-Static Convoluted PTFE bore, Aramid fibre braid

200 SS Hose:
Application: Fuel, Oil, Coolants, Methanol, Water.
Temperature Range: -46oC to +150oC

Unrelated to the oil lines but related to the project I picked up a
BLITZ DUAL-SBC Spec S boost controller.
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Possibly a little bit overkill but I hope to grow into it all
Can't wait to see the DIY on this one! :woot:
 
#557 ·
EXTREME low buck with a healthy amount of macgyverism.. Thats my angle. Keep out of it.

So do you have an ETA for when you will be firing this thing up? Im not talking about having it ready to run at the track im talking about just cranking it on with the turbos installed for the first time.
 
#558 ·
You know everyday I want to do it lol, but first I got to get the turbo lines run (safety measure incase I lose patience and decide to do it) Second well before that I actually want to clean out the headers and free them from any debris, I need to have the downpipe welded up, (doubt I will wait for the whole exhaust to be done) I need to have the blow off valve placed either via couplers or replacing the adapter I bought with the right size for the BOV. and complete the wiring of the power to the fusebox (minor). So realistically I am still about a month out, unless I decide to free air fire itfor a few seconds without the downpipe at super low RPM oh I also need to hook up the gauges. Still a lot to do my friend. <damn Mccain has forever ruind those two words together for me :(
 
#560 ·
Possibly :)
 
#562 · (Edited)
Okay I figured a way to secure the fuse box next to the steering column and maintain the ability to get the steering column's lower dash panel back on :D. It actually worked out better than I expected it to. I need to remove the bar and cover it with some electrical tape to be on the safe side though.

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#563 ·
can you be a little specific about how you mounted it? I see the pics but its hard for me to tell what you did. I need to mount the TCU im adding to my civic and havent found a good place yet.
 
#564 ·
Took a thin well 1/4" thick aluminum bar bent one end at 90 degreesand slid it between two supports that tghten together by a screw and tightend in to place on that side then ran it across the fron side of the fuse box tight enough to be secure and not shake out of place but loose enough to not damage the wiring on the backside. then took a metal wire tie down that had a hole for where you would nail or wire the wires down to a stud, bent the looped part that the wires rest in out, drilled a hole in the other side large enough for the aluminum bar to slip in and mounted that side to the steering column so that move it up and down to tighten it and/or loosen the side by the in main relay and remove it all together without difficulty.


I also got a little more work done today and cut the holes larger to accomodate the intercooler piping and the piping for the air filters so that I can run them in full CAI fashion
 
#565 ·
Do you find that you start slowing down on projects the closer you are to completing them? Thats how it works for me. Once you finish it you will have so much time on your hands you aren't sure what to do with. Also check out my project (in my sig) sometime. I feel better the more smart people are watching.
 
#566 ·
I do feel that way, but at the same time I feel pushed to finish it because I grow tired of it or as though it just is not getting done fast enough so I move on. But this has too much money time effort and desire in it to do that. I will check out what you're working on.
 
#567 · (Edited by Moderator)
Well the correct and the incorrect, drain line flanges came in. Anybody wanna buy a nice set of Blue -10AN drainline flanges lol :) Pics once the batteries charge.

Question?

Anybody know a good place to tpa the 3.5 to run the oil line to the turbo's?
 
#570 ·
Just a little teaser pic. hopefully the lube lines for the turbos will be here on Mon as scheduled. :)

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#571 ·
Ooo, that'll look nice on the center dash.
 
#572 ·
Thank you, it's actually a full carbon fiber piece not an overlay. :D

another teaser pic.

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Still a few more steps before it is done but it's getting there.
 
#573 ·
Ok had to throw some of it together to get a good idea of what I am looking at before more welding and running the oil lines so I snapped a few picks of what it should look like once it nears completion less asthetic details

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#575 ·
Thanks, I made it myself. I was playing with the idea of making eyelids for the G2's and bought some carbon fiber then realized that there would not be a way for a stock radio console to house all the gauges I wanted so I figured it would be a great opportunity to practice working with CF. This is my second attemt; the first one didn't hold all the gauges I decided to buy once I got serious about the build.
 
#580 ·
Thanks guys I appreciate the kind words,

I plan on jethot coating the exhaust pipes, the headers and the Y-pipe once the build is complete; I wanna do as much as I can to keep from having to repaint the CF hood every year. The hotside of the turbose will not be Jethotted because I plan to replace them before too long.

Good observation Vic, these pics are a little deceptive (and I think the pipe moved on me). but at the point where it runs in front of the fan the goal will bw to have about 3" of space there on each side of the piping.

Yeah I got spanked by a WRX some months back, so as soon as I am done I am going hunting for it. (lol)